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Old 12-10-2012, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

If so... where did you have them before.. and where do you have them now?

Second Part I'm curious on... Do some of you give Pac a loss or two based on how you scored the other fights between them.... or do you go with what the record book reflects and thus you have Pac rated just as his record reflects?
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

Marquez is roided and stood on Pacman his feet, should have been a DQ.
He moved down on my list, below Edwin Valero.



Also Romney paid Manny to take a dive.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:39 PM   #3
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

Marquez went up.

Pacquio is at the stage where his historic standing is a done deal give or take, and the results of his fights have more bearing for the other party.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:02 PM   #4
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

Pac doesn't move really. He's notably slipped from his Hatton and Cotto days.

Jmm takes a big leap.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:32 PM   #5
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

but as to the second part of the question.. Do any of you base either ratings on your own scoring of the series of fights... Some have Marquez winning 3 out 4 or 2 out of 4 or whatever... Where as the actual record of the fighters is different
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

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but as to the second part of the question.. Do any of you base either ratings on your own scoring of the series of fights... Some have Marquez winning 3 out 4 or 2 out of 4 or whatever... Where as the actual record of the fighters is different
I always base ratings on my cards.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:46 PM   #7
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Default Re: Did Pac n Marquez move up n down on your ATG lists?

Marquez has to go up.

He has the only conclusive win of a four-fight series. He's stamped himself the better man then Manny Pacquiao, a very, very great fighter.

Pacquiao cemented his greatness with his amazing earlier run, and he's clearly fading, but JMM is an old man, perhaps MORE faded, and he just shocked the world.

It is THE biggest win of his career, and it might be his very last one.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #8
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Marquez has gone up, another old guy to actually get his body into remarkable condition and gained muscle and strength, a much different body than the Mayweather fight. Pacman is an ATG for me already and looked to be coming on aggressively but Marquez had a much heavier hand of power, quite scary, Pacman took his best before but this time it was power magnified. Marquez may still have a few fights left but a rematch with Manny looks to be the best money fight, then Bradley and if successful a rematch with Floyd if Floyd don't cry steriod
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