More skilled: Eder Jofre or Ricardo Lopez - Page 5

dpw417 · 12-14-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by El Bujia

Ha! Looks like I've been unbanned, too.

hey man ...welcome back to you too!

LittleRed · 12-14-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Addie

Absolutely.

I'd go as far to say that it's often lost that JCC Was a technician at all. Subtle defence, arguably the greatest combination puncher I've ever seen, a complete fighter. There was a sense of inevitably when he fought. His opponents may look as if they are coping well early on but Chavez would always be in control, and it would only be a matter of time before the lead right hands and left hooks to the body took there toll.

Chavez a technician? Lmfao. Against who Tijuana cab drivers. You guys are too much. Yet another Mexican brawler with two left feet who brawls with uneducated pressure wildly.

AlFrancis · 12-14-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Chavez a technician? Lmfao. Against who Tijuana cab drivers. You guys are too much. Yet another Mexican brawler with two left feet who brawls with uneducated pressure wildly.

I think I'd have to go along with Addie on that one.

LittleRed · 12-14-2012, 01:31 PM

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I think I'd have to go along with Addie on that one.

Flea Man · 12-14-2012, 01:35 PM

Chavez was a brawler, no doubt about it. If you gave him a bit of movement he was done for.

LittleRed · 12-14-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Chavez was a brawler, no doubt about it. If you gave him a bit of movement he was done for.

You're thinking of Duran. Chavez couldn't best guys with skill; he had to be bigger and stronger so he could wear you down with his wild swings.

Addie · 12-14-2012, 01:44 PM

An educated pressure fighter. If all it took was a bit of movement to defeat Chavez then he would have lost a lot sooner than he did. The likes of Aguilar, Mayweather, Pratchett etc. all offered movement to no avail. It took a Pernell Whitaker to get the better of Julio, and there's no shame in being bested by Sweet Pea.

AlFrancis · 12-14-2012, 01:44 PM

He was a brawler but he was more than just that. You can't fight in close at that level for all that time the way he did without taking clean shots back unless you've got something about you.

Flea Man · 12-14-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Addie

An educated pressure fighter. If all it took was a bit of movement to defeat Chavez then he would have lost a lot sooner than he did. The likes of Aguilar, Mayweather, Pratchett etc. all offered movement to no avail. It took a Pernell Whitaker to get the better of Julio, and there's no shame in being bested by Sweet Pea.

That fight was a draw. Lol. Roger Mayweather was a glass jawed timid joke.

Addie · 12-14-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

That fight was a draw. Lol. Roger Mayweather was a glass jawed timid joke.

JCC would tear through the divisions today. He'd be winning up at 154lbs. Just sayin'.

LittleRed · 12-14-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

That fight was a draw. Lol. Roger Mayweather was a glass jawed timid joke.

What's with classic guys acting like guys like Mayweather could fight? Chavez beat bums. Bums! Had he come along ten years later Zab Judah would've schooled him!

Flea Man · 12-14-2012, 02:03 PM

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JCC would tear through the divisions today. He'd be winning up at 154lbs. Just sayin'.

Yeah right. If Frankie Randall can easily beat him in his prime what would even Kermit Cintron do to him? Boxing has developed since Chavez's time. JMM would KTFO Chavez

If you'd Terry Norris and 'all the way to cruiserweight' I'd be more inclined to support your view.

Addie · 12-14-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

What's with classic guys acting like guys like Mayweather could fight? Chavez beat bums. Bums! Had he come along ten years later Zab Judah would've schooled him!

On a more serious note, I can't think of a worse style match-up for Judah.

Addie · 12-14-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Yeah right. If Frankie Randall can easily beat him in his prime what would even Kermit Cintron do to him? Boxing has developed since Chavez's time. JMM would KTFO Chavez

If you'd Terry Norris and 'all the way to cruiserweight' I'd be more inclined to support your view.

LittleRed · 12-14-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Yeah right. If Frankie Randall can easily beat him in his prime what would even Kermit Cintron do to him? Boxing has developed since Chavez's time. JMM would KTFO Chavez

If you'd Terry Norris and 'all the way to cruiserweight' I'd be more inclined to support your view.

Adrien Broner could have gone 100-0 against Chavez opposition.

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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,064 vCash: 75	Re: More skilled: Eder Jofre or Ricardo Lopez Chavez was a brawler, no doubt about it. If you gave him a bit of movement he was done for.
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Addie MAB. East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK, England Posts: 36,388 vCash: 842	Re: More skilled: Eder Jofre or Ricardo Lopez An educated pressure fighter. If all it took was a bit of movement to defeat Chavez then he would have lost a lot sooner than he did. The likes of Aguilar, Mayweather, Pratchett etc. all offered movement to no avail. It took a Pernell Whitaker to get the better of Julio, and there's no shame in being bested by Sweet Pea.
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AlFrancis Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Granada, Spain. Posts: 3,955 vCash: 1000	Re: More skilled: Eder Jofre or Ricardo Lopez He was a brawler but he was more than just that. You can't fight in close at that level for all that time the way he did without taking clean shots back unless you've got something about you.
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