Was Pacman who took Cotto's best KO'd because he was off the PEDs?

BigBone · 12-11-2012, 10:03 AM

Looks like dragging down Marquez' win is the game this week, so let's spin it!

Do you think the difference between Pac standing up to full grown WW Cotto's & Margarito's power, but not to Marquez' shots which he called "same as usual" is because he was off the PEDs on Saturday?

Quickhand · 12-11-2012, 10:04 AM

Yep.

Miguel · 12-11-2012, 10:07 AM

Such a stupid thread - do you people know anything about physics, momentum, force? JEEZ! LOL, that punch would have KO'd anyone...if you're falling forward with your chin exposed and then a punch comes at you at opposite force to where you're heading then the impact is massive...then add the fact the brain hasn't registered because you didn't see it...

This on the PEDS, off the PEDS - sounds like a bunch of kids

Brian · 12-11-2012, 10:07 AM

Maybe but you can't underestimate walking right into an overhand right.

Hatesrats · 12-11-2012, 10:09 AM

Pacquiao didn't "Walk into" a right hand he was set-up for it.
(A Rat don't break his own neck in a trap.)

SugarShane_24 · 12-11-2012, 10:11 AM

And Cotto's best punch was a left hook.

Different angle of attack.

box247 · 12-11-2012, 10:11 AM

He walked into a good right hand. What would have PED's done exactly.
There's no need to discredit Marquez, he came to get the KO saw an opportunity and executed very well

box247 · 12-11-2012, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Pacquiao didn't "Walk into" a right hand he was set-up for it.
(A Rat don't break his own neck in a trap.)

Marquez didn't look too good, had taken some shots and needed to see the round out. But he saw his an opportunity to land a good punch and it worked.

Miguel · 12-11-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Pacquiao didn't "Walk into" a right hand he was set-up for it.
(A Rat don't break his own neck in a trap.)

Not quite, he feinted a right and went off balance and stumbled forward. Marquez took the opportunity. Marquez didn't make him fall forward, Marquez at that point was taking shots, in pure survival mode, breathing hard and hoping for an opening...he was so bad his corner were willing to only give him another round or so to recover...

The reaction this was all set up blow by blow is a joke LOL

Miguel · 12-11-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by box247

Marquez didn't look too good, had taken some shots and needed to see the round out. But he saw his an opportunity to land a good punch and it worked.

Ditto - nicely said

BigBone · 12-11-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

Such a stupid thread - do you people know anything about physics, momentum, force? JEEZ! LOL, that punch would have KO'd anyone...if you're falling forward with your chin exposed and then a punch comes at you at opposite force to where you're heading then the impact is massive...then add the fact the brain hasn't registered because you didn't see it...

This on the PEDS, off the PEDS - sounds like a bunch of kids

Chill bro, it's targeted exactly at those kids spinning the PEDs wheel. If they are so convinced of JMM using PEDs, they should have no problem giving their opinion whether Pacquiao was off of them or not.

Inquisitive · 12-11-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

Such a stupid thread - do you people know anything about physics, momentum, force? JEEZ! LOL, that punch would have KO'd anyone...if you're falling forward with your chin exposed and then a punch comes at you at opposite force to where you're heading then the impact is massive...then add the fact the brain hasn't registered because you didn't see it...

This on the PEDS, off the PEDS - sounds like a bunch of kids

ESB science. Seems legit.

Montero · 12-11-2012, 10:56 AM

Stop with the PEDs bullshit. He got hit with a beautiful, flush right hard that he didn't see coming. NOBODY takes that shot.

Beenie · 12-11-2012, 11:09 AM

Had Cotto delivered his best left hook at the exact moment in which Pac dropped his guard and was moving chin first into the blow then the same result would have likely happened.

The same could be said about JMM and Cotto had they walked face first into each others best punches.

Hattons Hook · 12-11-2012, 11:15 AM

What a dick

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