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Old 12-12-2012, 02:16 AM   #76
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Broner is for real whether you hate him or not!
No one is questioning his talent. But his resume is severely lacking. Mares and Froch belong there ahead of him.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:34 AM   #77
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Boner should be below Donaire.
Yep. Broner above Donaire is a total ****ing disgrace.

Based purely upon talent as a primary factor and achievment as secondary you could argue him top #6. But Ring has never based their rankings primarily upon talent. Until now.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:46 AM   #78
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They kicked Mares off and put Broner above Donaire and Bradley? I normally don't have much problem with what they do, even if I disagree, but that is the single most absurd thing I have seen Ring do in the past couple years.
Good point. I guess Mares really is joining Top Rank huh?
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:51 PM   #79
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but to be totally honest, I really dont think its a bad idea to start telling Ring how people feel on this.... you cant please all the people all the time, but this is absurd
I sent an e-mail as well.

That list was simply awful, Burns is top15 but no way in hell top 5! Ring has to go back to their old rating panel, otherwise they loose all credibility.

btw my top 10:
1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Donaire
5. Martinez
6. W. Klitschko
7. Pacquiao
8. V. Klitschko
9. Bradley
10. Froch
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:51 PM   #80
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:52 PM   #81
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Vitalis not on this list. shit list.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:04 PM   #82
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I don't really pay much attention to ring P4P these days, but I can't remember a fighter getting elevated to such a high ranking on such a thin resume as Broner.

That isn't a knock on Broner's ability in any way, but in no way shape or form has he proven himself to be one of the premier fighters in the sport.

Roy Jones was a far superior talent to Broner, but didn't crack the top 5 until he beat Toney. Prodigious talents were spoken about in P4P terms, but they didn't actually earn the ranking until they had quality wins on their record. Mayweather had to go through Hernandez and Manfredy before he got a high spot on the list.

It really smacks of desperation and a need to create the new superstar du jour. Clearly, the Ring have decided that Broner is that guy.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #83
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I don't really pay much attention to ring P4P these days, but I can't remember a fighter getting elevated to such a high ranking on such a thin resume as Broner.

That isn't a knock on Broner's ability in any way, but in no way shape or form has he proven himself to be one of the premier fighters in the sport.

Roy Jones was a far superior talent to Broner, but didn't crack the top 5 until he beat Toney. Prodigious talents were spoken about in P4P terms, but they didn't actually earn the ranking until they had quality wins on their record. Mayweather had to go through Hernandez and Manfredy before he got a high spot on the list.

It really smacks of desperation and a need to create the new superstar du jour. Clearly, the Ring have decided that Broner is that guy.
True. They are lining Broner up for the top 2-3 at least, Floyd, Marquez Martinez could very well retire in the next year or two also. Also, why didn't they wait until Donaire fought at the weekend to review the list, nobody much else on the list is fighting anytime soon anyway so its strange that they didn't wait to see Donaire first.


They seem to be setting up Ward for top spot too, although he is more deserving. Marquez beat their num 1 at the time and only goes third from 5-6, Ward beat #10 at the time Dawson who was, lets face it, weight-drained: which is a better win? Also Mares beat the #10 at the time Moreno but he isn't even on the list: Guerrero and Broner get in by neating guys not really in the P4P frame at all.


On a side note, Bradley is ranked as 8th in WW and 9th P4P, doesn't that seem strange? I know he was 140lbs champion, but I find it strange that they say guys like Brook, Malinaggi and Zaveck ahead of him but they aren't near the P4P rankings.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:08 PM   #84
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My email complaining about the new rankings got a reply from Ring editor Michael Rosenthal. It read as follows:

'That was the decision of the new Ratings Chairman Chuck Giampa; the editors had nothing to do with it. Here's Chuck's email address: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].'

Chuck Giampa is this guy:

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I've sent the same complaint email to Giampa. Hopefully he replies.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:09 PM   #85
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My email complaining about the new rankings got a reply from Ring editor Michael Rosenthal. It read as follows:

'That was the decision of the new Ratings Chairman Chuck Giampa; the editors had nothing to do with it. Here's Chuck's email address: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].'

Chuck Giampa is this guy:

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I've sent the same complaint email to Giampa. Hopefully he replies.
Or just ceases to fix those rankings.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:14 PM   #86
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The **** are they doing with Broner?

Do they need a token number of Americans?
Broner gonna bebigger then floyd, who can beat him right now huh? Floyd and thats it. quote me on this fellas.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:22 PM   #87
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It's mythical so really doesn't mean shit.People are just giving their opinions.Hope you deal with it as well when he falls,it shouldn't come as a surprise.The guy has talent people just pointing out his questionable/overrated resume.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:26 PM   #89
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That's a solid list by the ring.

Top 2 are set in stone - though there is less distance between Ward and Mayweather than there ever was between Pacquiao and Mayweather.

3-6 are interchangeable, as are 8-10.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:28 PM   #90
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Or just ceases to fix those rankings.
Woah there. Let's not get carried away now.
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