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Old 07-24-2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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Such a small city. People bring up Nyc an Detroit all the time. My roots go back to pittsburgh most of my family is from there. Somethin in the water over there. greb, conn, burley, yarosz, soose, zivic, Angott, Klaus, Wilson,Demarco, Spadafora... People say ny an Detroit
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
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It is the best fight city in terms of history an per capita.. An it is by far
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:13 AM   #3
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Possibly.
For its size, probably.

Philadelphia deserves a mention.


Let's be honest, NYC has produced loads of fighters.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:23 AM   #4
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Most def bro. I just hear people talk about per capita a lot on here. With the cuban amateur scene, also with the large number of puerto rican champs with that small island. But pittsburgh is not close to philly in size. I think its clear Pittsburgh tops the cake
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Possibly.
For its size, probably.

Philadelphia deserves a mention.


Let's be honest, NYC has produced loads of fighters.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:27 AM   #5
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The British produced so many greats too. Just pittsburgh is on another level in my opinion
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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I trained over there alot when i lived with my grandma. I was weighed in the 130s. They had me spar a former top 20 heavyweight ranked pro. He went easy on me at like 20 percent but when he hit me i wanted to cry. I was 15. The gyms are gritty
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I grew up there. It wasn't all that small in those days. Has lost about half its population in the past 30 years, after most of the mills closed. There's not one steel mill still operating within the city limits. That said, people did like to fight on the streets back there. Not sure if it's still that way and not exactly sure why, but you expected it.
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i know you charlie zivic. How you been my man? I hope your book about your dad is still in progress
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I grew up there. It wasn't all that small in those days. Has lost about half its population in the past 30 years, after most of the mills closed. There's not one steel mill still operating within the city limits. That said, people did like to fight on the streets back there. Not sure if it's still that way and not exactly sure why, but you expected it.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:13 PM   #9
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i know you charlie zivic. How you been my man? I hope your book about your dad is still in progress
I'm sorry, man- I don't recognize the handle. The book's done. Thanks for asking.
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Such a small city. People bring up Nyc an Detroit all the time. My roots go back to pittsburgh most of my family is from there. Somethin in the water over there. greb, conn, burley, yarosz, soose, zivic, Angott, Klaus, Wilson,Demarco, Spadafora... People say ny an Detroit
Don't forget MW champ George Chip, who established himself in Pittsburgh before moving up to New Castle.

Bantie champ Tony Marino is another.

Wee Willie Davies was arguably the greatest flyweight to never receive a title shot (Frankie Genaro wouldn't give him a shot after Willie beat him 8 of 10 rounds in a non-title affair).

Jack McClelland, the "Pride of Pittsburgh", gave Abe Attell a good beating but Red Mason couldn't induce him to give Mack a title try.

Then there are all those top contenders:

Dominick McCaffrey
Patsy Brannigan
Johnny Ray (future Billy Conn trainer)
Frank Moran
Harry Bobo
Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard
Bob Baker
Lee Sala
Tommy Yarosz
Tom McMahon
Buck Crouse
Fay Keiser
Jack Zivic
Pete Zivic
Mose Butch
Bill Bossio(the first ranking fighter Angelo Dundee trained)
Billy Jones (top LHW in the 1930s)
Michael Moorer (from Monessen, just south of Pittsburgh)
Al Quaill
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #11
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Sugar Ray Robinson with some of the Smoky City's finest: Ossie "Bulldog" Harris, Robinson, Mose Brown, Fritzie Zivic, Harry Bobo, Jackie Wilson, unknown....
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:04 PM   #12
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Don't forget MW champ George Chip, who established himself in Pittsburgh before moving up to New Castle.

Bantie champ Tony Marino is another.

Wee Willie Davies was arguably the greatest flyweight to never receive a title shot (Frankie Genaro wouldn't give him a shot after Willie beat him 8 of 10 rounds in a non-title affair).

Jack McClelland, the "Pride of Pittsburgh", gave Abe Attell a good beating but Red Mason couldn't induce him to give Mack a title try.

Then there are all those top contenders:

Dominick McCaffrey
Patsy Brannigan
Johnny Ray (future Billy Conn trainer)
Frank Moran
Harry Bobo
Curtis "Hatchetman" Sheppard
Bob Baker
Lee Sala
Tommy Yarosz
Tom McMahon
Buck Crouse
Fay Keiser
Jack Zivic
Pete Zivic
Mose Butch
Bill Bossio(the first ranking fighter Angelo Dundee trained)
Billy Jones (top LHW in the 1930s)
Michael Moorer (from Monessen, just south of Pittsburgh)
Al Quaill
Ah the name Bill Bossio brings back memory's...Bossio and I served in the Navy at Little Creek, Va...He was a short, compact guy who turned pro later on...
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:57 PM   #13
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Ah the name Bill Bossio brings back memory's...Bossio and I served in the Navy at Little Creek, Va...He was a short, compact guy who turned pro later on...
Very interesting Burt
He looks short against Saddler, look the difference in size !!

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Old 07-24-2012, 04:00 PM   #14
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George Chip was from Scranton.

He later moved to Madison which was more than half an hour away from Pittsburgh at the time and where he learned to box.

He began training in New Castle under Jimmy Dime nearly a year before his first bout in Pittsburgh and shortly thereafter relocated in New Castle, where he lived out the rest of his life.

His daughter Pat was a friend of my mother for years. I got to hear a lot of stories about George and his brothers, all of whom boxed.

Pittsburgh likes to claim all of the stars to come out of south western Pennsylvania but we know better.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:34 PM   #15
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Z6fQ2DiQw[/ame]

Heres the guy i use to spar with. Gary winmon who would have went father than he did if he didnt have outsie the ring issues. Really good guy who took me under his wing an trained me an taught me so much. Thanks guys for contributing in this thread.
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