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Old 12-15-2012, 02:06 AM   #1
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Default what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny

just wondering other people thoughts i think marquez a little more sugnificant cuz naseem was fighting the best opponet to date while pac had walked through hatton,margarito,cotto,mosley
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:18 AM   #2
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MAB v Naseem. Hamed was seen as damn near unbeatable at the time. JMM and Pac have already gone around and around.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:27 AM   #3
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knocking pac out cold is way more significant
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:33 AM   #4
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The Pac win and it isn't close.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:56 AM   #5
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Well Naseem was pretty much bored with boxing at that point, but he still managed to come away with a points loss to MAB. The Marquez fights have always been close up until Marquez knocked Pacquiao out. So I would go with the latter.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:18 AM   #6
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This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:24 AM   #7
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This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.
Stop talking utter shit.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:42 AM   #8
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JMM vs Manny easily. Hamed wasn't a bum obviously, but divac's point on his actual accomplishments is valid overall. Hamed's best win overall is probably his war against Kevin Kelley, who was a pretty good fighter but nowhere near elite. The only elite opponent he faced soundly defeated him and Hamed retired one fight later. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about Hamed's actual level. Manny has been slipping obviously, but was still among the top 5 P4P fighters in the world at the least, had been debatably number one for years, and has a vast resume of very good/elite wins at a lot of weight classes. Plus while not seen as unbeatable no fighter had really hurt Manny in any significant way since he moved up to Welterweight.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:43 AM   #9
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Jmm vs Pac
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:47 AM   #10
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:57 AM   #11
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This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.
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Stop talking utter shit.
Some of Divac's post is shit in that he underrates the Prince, and by extension, MAB's great victory over him.

However, he is correct in saying that JMM's victory was much better over a much greater boxer.

I don't think it's even a close comparison.

It's not that the result was such an upset. Going into the fight, this was almost a pick'em proposition, with Pac a slight favourite.

It was the manner in which JMM defeated Pac that makes the win great.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:01 AM   #12
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I agree JMM's victory was better but the amount is horrendous nonsense spouted by morons about Nas is retarded. He isn't even remotely overrated considering people still claim is was utterly destroyed by Marco and that his loss somehow negates his entire career to the point that some even rate Gatti higher.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:13 AM   #13
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IMO JMM/Pac takes this but it is close.

THe Barrera win is being downplayed now.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:33 AM   #14
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This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.

I loved Hamed, but this guy is 100% correct
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:35 AM   #15
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JMM vs Manny.

Divac got it right on the dot.
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