what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny

box101 · 12-15-2012, 02:06 AM

just wondering other people thoughts i think marquez a little more sugnificant cuz naseem was fighting the best opponet to date while pac had walked through hatton,margarito,cotto,mosley

bernie4366 · 12-15-2012, 02:18 AM

MAB v Naseem. Hamed was seen as damn near unbeatable at the time. JMM and Pac have already gone around and around.

H . · 12-15-2012, 02:27 AM

knocking pac out cold is way more significant

NoNeck · 12-15-2012, 02:33 AM

The Pac win and it isn't close.

Dynamito_2012 · 12-15-2012, 02:56 AM

Well Naseem was pretty much bored with boxing at that point, but he still managed to come away with a points loss to MAB. The Marquez fights have always been close up until Marquez knocked Pacquiao out. So I would go with the latter.

divac · 12-15-2012, 03:18 AM

This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.

uraharakisuke · 12-15-2012, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divac

This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.

Stop talking utter shit.

HitBattousai · 12-15-2012, 03:42 AM

JMM vs Manny easily. Hamed wasn't a bum obviously, but divac's point on his actual accomplishments is valid overall. Hamed's best win overall is probably his war against Kevin Kelley, who was a pretty good fighter but nowhere near elite. The only elite opponent he faced soundly defeated him and Hamed retired one fight later. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about Hamed's actual level. Manny has been slipping obviously, but was still among the top 5 P4P fighters in the world at the least, had been debatably number one for years, and has a vast resume of very good/elite wins at a lot of weight classes. Plus while not seen as unbeatable no fighter had really hurt Manny in any significant way since he moved up to Welterweight.

Suga · 12-15-2012, 03:43 AM

Jmm vs Pac

Hatesrats · 12-15-2012, 03:47 AM

http://www.kentips.com/wp-content/up...z-4-Fight1.jpg

cuchulain · 12-15-2012, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divac

This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.

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Originally Posted by uraharakisuke

Stop talking utter shit.

Some of Divac's post is shit in that he underrates the Prince, and by extension, MAB's great victory over him.

However, he is correct in saying that JMM's victory was much better over a much greater boxer.

I don't think it's even a close comparison.

It's not that the result was such an upset. Going into the fight, this was almost a pick'em proposition, with Pac a slight favourite.

It was the manner in which JMM defeated Pac that makes the win great.

uraharakisuke · 12-15-2012, 04:01 AM

I agree JMM's victory was better but the amount is horrendous nonsense spouted by morons about Nas is retarded. He isn't even remotely overrated considering people still claim is was utterly destroyed by Marco and that his loss somehow negates his entire career to the point that some even rate Gatti higher.

JoeCamelTow · 12-15-2012, 04:13 AM

IMO JMM/Pac takes this but it is close.

THe Barrera win is being downplayed now.

Beouche · 12-15-2012, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divac

This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not.
Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was.

Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way!

I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed.
He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.

I loved Hamed, but this guy is 100% correct

eze · 12-15-2012, 04:35 AM

JMM vs Manny.

Divac got it right on the dot.

12-15-2012, 02:06 AM	#1
box101 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,021 vCash: 500	what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny just wondering other people thoughts i think marquez a little more sugnificant cuz naseem was fighting the best opponet to date while pac had walked through hatton,margarito,cotto,mosley
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12-15-2012, 02:18 AM	#2
bernie4366 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,097 vCash: 1090	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny MAB v Naseem. Hamed was seen as damn near unbeatable at the time. JMM and Pac have already gone around and around.
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H . konews East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,596 vCash: 144	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny knocking pac out cold is way more significant
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12-15-2012, 02:33 AM	#4
NoNeck Pugilist Specialist ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,551 vCash: 500	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny The Pac win and it isn't close.
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12-15-2012, 02:56 AM	#5
Dynamito_2012 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: England Posts: 1,740 vCash: 500	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny Well Naseem was pretty much bored with boxing at that point, but he still managed to come away with a points loss to MAB. The Marquez fights have always been close up until Marquez knocked Pacquiao out. So I would go with the latter.
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12-15-2012, 03:18 AM	#6
divac Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: LosAngeles Posts: 11,457 vCash: 75	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny This is hillarious. Hamed never proved himself against anyone resembling elite whether prime or not. Pacquiao is 20X the fighter Hamed ever was. Current Pacquiao, and I'm talking post Marquez 4 destroys Hamed every wish way! I'd say Hamed is one of the most overrated fight hypes in boxing history, thats whay I think of Hamed. He's a fraud tha quit boxing the first time he was ever tested.
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12-15-2012, 03:42 AM	#8
HitBattousai Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 847 vCash: 1375	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny JMM vs Manny easily. Hamed wasn't a bum obviously, but divac's point on his actual accomplishments is valid overall. Hamed's best win overall is probably his war against Kevin Kelley, who was a pretty good fighter but nowhere near elite. The only elite opponent he faced soundly defeated him and Hamed retired one fight later. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about Hamed's actual level. Manny has been slipping obviously, but was still among the top 5 P4P fighters in the world at the least, had been debatably number one for years, and has a vast resume of very good/elite wins at a lot of weight classes. Plus while not seen as unbeatable no fighter had really hurt Manny in any significant way since he moved up to Welterweight.
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12-15-2012, 03:43 AM	#9
Suga Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: On the moon Posts: 1,754 vCash: 75	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny Jmm vs Pac
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Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 26,015 vCash: 0	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny http://www.kentips.com/wp-content/up...z-4-Fight1.jpg
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12-15-2012, 04:01 AM	#12
uraharakisuke Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,218 vCash: 759	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny I agree JMM's victory was better but the amount is horrendous nonsense spouted by morons about Nas is retarded. He isn't even remotely overrated considering people still claim is was utterly destroyed by Marco and that his loss somehow negates his entire career to the point that some even rate Gatti higher.
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12-15-2012, 04:13 AM	#13
JoeCamelTow Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,242 vCash: 500	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny IMO JMM/Pac takes this but it is close. THe Barrera win is being downplayed now.
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12-15-2012, 04:35 AM	#15
eze Everybody Know Me East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: It's Like I'm a Movie Star Posts: 34,692 vCash: 1000	Re: what was bigger win mab vs naseem or jmm vs manny JMM vs Manny. Divac got it right on the dot.
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