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Old 12-12-2012, 12:24 PM   #76
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Pacquiao himself only fought two of the guys you named.
Two is more than zero.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #77
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Two is more than zero.
We'll call Cotto 1/2 since you're discrediting him based on your own idea of his fighting prime.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #78
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He started fighting legitimate opponents two years after turning pro.
Are you going to answer the question or not? What was floyd's first legitimate opponent, and how many fights in was it?

Manny won the WBC Flyweight title from Sasakul in 1998, three years after turning pro. That pretty legitimate.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #79
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We'll call Cotto 1/2 since you're discrediting him based on your own idea of his fighting prime.
Ok, then 1 1/2 is more than zero.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:28 PM   #80
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Two is more than zero.
Not to mention Tszyu was even in the picture when Manny jumped to 140/147. This kid knows nothing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:29 PM   #81
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This whole, pac has a better resume is SO laughable. Pac fought almost no one for his first 30 fights! Pacman has been carefully matched vs weight drained fighters. Mayweather NEVER took a fight like clottey during his prime. Also if mayweather fights 2 out of canelo, martinez and guerrero hes going to soldify his legacy even more.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:29 PM   #82
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We'll call Cotto 1/2 since you're discrediting him based on your own idea of his fighting prime.
Question:

How many fights was it before Julio Cesar Chavez fought a legitimate opponent?
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:30 PM   #83
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Are you going to answer the question or not? What was floyd's first legitimate opponent, and how many fights in was it?

Manny won the WBC Flyweight title from Sasakul in 1998, three years after turning pro. That pretty legitimate.
He just found out who Sasakul was yesterday.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #84
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It depends on how you define greatness.

Pac will always be the fighter who gave the fans exciting fights although he wasn't the greatest technically.

Mayweather will always be remembered as the most technically proficient fighter of his era, but his career, like Montero said, is a big "what if" when it comes to big fights.

Both were great in their own way. As a fan, I will watch Pac fights for years to come. If I'm a trainer, I'll have my students watch Mayweather, though.
As if Pac's career is not filled with what ifs? What if Pac didn't fight guys coming off losses? what if Pac didn't fight guys asking for an advantage? what if Pac body didn't look like he is on something?

One track mind. If people want to put up an arguement, the most important thing is to make sure that the arguement can't be backfired.

so freaking easy.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #85
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Mayweather NEVER took a fight like clottey during his prime.
You mean like fighting a guy coming off a loss as opposed to the winner, like when he fought Judah?
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #86
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43-0 never KOd 3 times never lost never had a draw before anybody brings up power Pac 62% Money 60 % and all roads lead to Money just stop the HATE.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #87
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The KO loss changes NOTHING!!!!

Mayweather has always been above Pacquiao. Always.
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Not to mention Tszyu was even in the picture when Manny jumped to 140/147. This kid knows nothing.
And neither was Floyd. Tszyu was on his way out just as Floyd was establishing himself in that division.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #89
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How many fights was it before Julio Cesar Chavez fought a legitimate opponent?
Don't recall off-hand, but I know he fought a lot of Mexican bums before stepping up. More than Manny Pacquiao did Filipino/Thai bums, I think.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #90
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I mean, honestly:

Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell and a Judah just coming off a loss to Baldomir is not exactly an ATG stretch on your resume.
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