James Toney vs Chris Eubank At SMW

[atberry]

If Eubank boxed like he did against Watson in their first fight, I don't see what James could do with him in all fairness. There was a lot of subtle skill in those first seven rounds against Watson (I) from Eubank, none more so than in the feet and ring generalship - and we know Toney much preferred an in-the-pocket fight. I had CE beating MW there in just about every minute, very comfortably (smirking poker face!) - basically everything Watson threw never really landed cleanly due to Eubank's eerily good 2-3inch head movement, (apart from a long right hand in the 3rd on a squatted, side-bending Chris).

[travolt]

Another point one can make is Eubank didn't have an inside game. He was always trying to box from the outside and was constantly thrusting his chin forward while protecting his body so he wouldn't get hit there.

In the video you posted one can see him swinging for the fences as this was saturday ballroom brawl, losing balance constantly.

Ther part on the ropes was hilarious.

If it was Toney instead of Watson in that rd, he would have killed him.

[SouthpawJab]

Toney can close the gap. He was cutting off Nunn pretty well. It's not lateral movement that bothers him. It's activity and athleticism. The shoulder roll is only good if they stand in front of the shoulder.

[Body Head]

Originally Posted by SouthpawJab

Am I the only one who thought that Nunn-Toney was close before the stoppage?

Yeah, Toney was closing in on the scores. I had Nunn winning the first 7 rounds. Toney winning 8,9,10 and 11 with a knockdown, then came the knockout. If Nunn got up from the second knockdown and Toney went on to win the 12th round it would have been a draw 113-113.

[atberry]

Nunn was cruising by Toney as much as Eubank was cruising by Watson, both fights within weeks of eachother. Interesting as well how Eubank famously knocked out Herol Graham in their first round of sparring a few weeks after Nunn-Kalambay.

Eubank always said Nunn was the fight he saw as the big one and last one.

[lora]

Originally Posted by travolt

Another point one can make is Eubank didn't have an inside game. He was always trying to box from the outside and was constantly thrusting his chin forward while protecting his body so he wouldn't get hit there.

In the video you posted one can see him swinging for the fences as this was saturday ballroom brawl, losing balance constantly.

Ther part on the ropes was hilarious.

If it was Toney instead of Watson in that rd, he would have killed him.

Except he was like that because of the way Watson had fought the previous rounds.Toney never really fought like that.Doesn't put that kind of pressure on.

that said, Eubank's stamina was erratic as hell and he probably would fade\need to bluff about, take rounds off at some point in most competitive fights he finds himself in etc Though i can't see Toney being the right kind of fighter to gas him out.Especially if he's not in the best shape himself.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by atberry

Nunn was cruising by Toney as much as Eubank was cruising by Watson, both fights within weeks of eachother. Interesting as well how Eubank famously knocked out Herol Graham in their first round of sparring a few weeks after Nunn-Kalambay.

Eubank always said Nunn was the fight he saw as the big one and last one.

Stylistically I believe Nunn would cause Chris more problems than Toney!

[atberry]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Stylistically I believe Nunn would cause Chris more problems than Toney!

No question. Eubank said in '89 that only two fighters could beat him - Herol Graham and Nunn. He felt he had a '55% chance' of beating Nunn and '45% chance' of beating Graham.

[atberry]

Mike McCallum today in Vegas gives his fighters DVD's of Eubank and asks them to study the ring generalship. That says a lot.

[lora]

at, Eubank couldn't consistently turn over the left hook.Does this ever get to you?

[atberry]

Originally Posted by lora

at, Eubank couldn't consistently turn over the left hook.Does this ever get to you?

Not at all considering he had the worst body structure for doing so - high hips and short torso. Mostly his hook was very, very short, though, with a nice pivot.

-At

[atberry]

Did you know Chris Eubank shared a twin room with Dennis Milton at Atlantis Hotel & Casino before and after this fight:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTB2Z8uTJuM[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk5VBRZ1ooM[/ame]


I did. Think Milton was on the card too (must've been).

[MAG1965]

James Toney by decision.

[atberry]

Eubank is quite the un-knockoutable, a little concerned with that vote

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by sas6789

Who comes out on top?

Eubanks would not go in the same room as Toney, let alone the same ring.