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Old 02-06-2008, 09:28 PM   #16
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Lets consider middleweights here as well.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:29 PM   #17
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And junior middleweights, if there are any.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:32 PM   #18
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It's a long list to be honest.

Current fighters I'd favour are Joe Calzaghe, and a prime Bernard Hopkins.

Throughout history there are too many to list. Moore, and Charles are good picks though.
Calzaghe and Hopkins are great fighters, but i can't see either of them doing anything to neutralize the supreme skills of RJJ. Jones was simply too hard for most people to figure out, and IMO was on another level then these guys. I haven't seen anyone who could beat Jones in his prime at 168. IMO he is the closest thing we have seen to an unbeatable fighter. He had speed, power, elusive defense, a terrific offense and a massive range of punches that he threw from all sorts of angles. He could do so many different things inside the ring, and could fight from both the inside and the outside with ease. A very intelligent fighter who could literally do stuff that defied traditional boxing technique. Most importantly, at this weight he had a solid chin. He would attack and finish up relentlessly.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:32 PM   #19
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And junior middleweights, if there are any.
Roy was very green there, I'd take someone like Hearns or McCallum to beat him.

At 160, Greb and Monzon are decent choices.

At 168, nobody really.

At 175, Foster, Charles(50/50), and possibly Spinks.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:46 PM   #20
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What I look at most of all at 168 is how he beat his opponents. Guys like Tate, Sosa, Toney, Pazienza and Brannon were totally embarrassed and made to look like mugs in there. Comparitively against other top guys like Nunn, Eubank, Benn ect ect they may not have won, but they made competitive fights. Jones was simply on another level to all these guys. How people compare the skills of Floyd to Roy is totally beyond me. Watch Floyd taking guys like Baldomir or Sosa the distance, or have to wait until the middle rounds to dispose of guys like the average Brusselles, when Roy in his prime was absolutely annihilating fighters on this level. Floyd is a great fighter no question, but there is no doubt in my mind that Roy is on another level entirely.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:49 PM   #21
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What I look at most of all at 168 is how he beat his opponents. Guys like Tate, Sosa, Toney, Pazienza and Brannon were totally embarrassed and made to look like mugs in there. Comparitively against other top guys like Nunn, Eubank, Benn ect ect they may not have won, but they made competitive fights. Jones was simply on another level to all these guys. How people compare the skills of Floyd to Roy is totally beyond me. Watch Floyd taking guys like Baldomir or Sosa the distance, or have to wait until the middle rounds to dispose of guys like the average Brusselles, when Roy in his prime was absolutely annihilating fighters on this level. Floyd is a great fighter no question, but there is no doubt in my mind that Roy is on another level entirely.
I wonder how few actually look at it and see it like this. That is the truth, what you have just posted, I post it often, Amsterdam does the same, and I'm surprised more people don't realize it. Roy is a full level above Floyd.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:36 PM   #22
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Why not Gerald McClellan? He beat Roy in the amateurs... I can see him winning.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:39 PM   #23
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Roy was very green there, I'd take someone like Hearns or McCallum to beat him.

At 160, Greb and Monzon are decent choices.

At 168, nobody really.

At 175, Foster, Charles(50/50), and possibly Spinks.
I give michael nunn a very good chance at beating him.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:44 PM   #24
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I would too.

Nunn looked at home during his short time at 168. He was unbeaten there, I believe.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:48 PM   #25
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I would too.

Nunn looked at home during his short time at 168. He was unbeaten there, I believe.
how many times has roy fought somone with superior boxing skills and someone that also possesses great handspeed and footspeed. Roy is more athletic, but when it comes to whos the better 'boxer', its nunn hands down.

If nunn was just a slow plodding fighter, thejn roy would have taken care of business. I just dont think his flashy shit will work on a prime nunn.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:05 AM   #26
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Nunn also had great power when he got serious.

Knocked Roldan down with an arm punch...

Going backwards.

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Old 02-07-2008, 12:07 AM   #27
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Nunn also had great power when he got serious.

Knocked Roldan down with an arm punch...

Going backwards.
Isn't there evidence Nunn had ALS? Just wondering
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:08 AM   #28
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Want to explain why you're chasing people thread to thread being an asshole?

Explaining why you're an asshole period would do, even.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:23 AM   #29
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Want to explain why you're chasing people thread to thread being an asshole?

Explaining why you're an asshole period would do, even.
Just waiting for one poster to explain their own stupidity is all. Pretty easy to keep up without a chase at this time.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:39 AM   #30
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You should track down the men who were close to Ezzard over the course of his years as a fighter who made the claim.

I didn't invent it, I repeated it.
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