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Old 02-07-2008, 12:47 AM   #31
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I didn't invent it, I repeated it.
Repeat it in a way that my own education believes it then, Russell. I guess you know more than me regarding the subject. Prove it beyond any shadow and I'll provide kudos in response. If you can't, WELL, you probably should've not mentioned the matter.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:49 AM   #32
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At 168, I wouldn't favor anybody over a prime Jones
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:50 AM   #33
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Because repeating a claim by men who KNEW the man in question implies that I'm an expert on the subject.

Go **** yourself fat, balding and looking for a late night pissing contest.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:58 AM   #34
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Because repeating a claim by men who KNEW the man in question implies that I'm an expert on the subject.
Because you are too worthless to research an erroneous claim?

Any proof from you?

Hell, you even post some strange matches
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:25 AM   #35
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You'd favor Calzaghe over a prime Jones? Too many to list at 168? Please list them. I consider it a very short list, but then again, you consider Floyd better than Roy.

edit: Nevermind, I've argued with you before on these points, you're the Jones hater.
I can almost hear you go "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!" everytime I type something about Roy Jones that isn't full of praise and godworship for a highly flawed and perpetually overhyped fighter.

Floyd IS better than Roy - Jones deficiencies were highlighted when he began to lose his athletic attributes, truly great fighters can neutralize superb speed and fast feet with effective pressure and great timing, two things Archie Moore was renowned for.

As Jake LaMotta said,
"Anyone who thinks Roy Jones would have a chance against Archie Moore doesn't have the faintest what they're on about."

It is pointless arguing the point with you, because you've been brainwashed by the heroic images of Jones in your young mind, and will refuse to accept anything other than godworship for him. I judge all fighters objectively.

It'll be about ten years before the "general boxing public" sees sense when it comes to Roy.
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:38 AM   #36
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Calzaghe and Hopkins are great fighters, but i can't see either of them doing anything to neutralize the supreme skills of RJJ. Jones was simply too hard for most people to figure out, and IMO was on another level then these guys. I haven't seen anyone who could beat Jones in his prime at 168. IMO he is the closest thing we have seen to an unbeatable fighter. He had speed, power, elusive defense, a terrific offense and a massive range of punches that he threw from all sorts of angles. He could do so many different things inside the ring, and could fight from both the inside and the outside with ease. A very intelligent fighter who could literally do stuff that defied traditional boxing technique. Most importantly, at this weight he had a solid chin. He would attack and finish up relentlessly.
I couldn't disagree anymore.

Joe Calzaghe is not as fast but much, much, more skilled than Jones Jnr, the subtelties of his style are lost on fans who don't know an awful lot about boxing or haven't done any themselves, incidentally the same people who thought Kessler would beat him.

Joe has the better chin, and the much better fighters mentality, he certainly wouldn't let Jones "neutralize" the fight the way he did against Hopkins, his offense is comparable to a hornets nest and he will be more than happy shaking off shots trying to come inside.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:20 AM   #37
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I like Bob Foster here, but being a light-heavy against Jones' 168 is quite unfair.
Another fighter who I think would give Jones problems would be Victor Galindez. A typical Argie with limitless strength, toughness and endurance, decent power and that animal-like fighting fury about him.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:22 AM   #38
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Looking for more obscure picks. Thanks fists.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:29 AM   #39
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Heh, I tried to pick beyond the usual old suspects.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:09 AM   #40
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Ezzard Charles at 168 at the right time would not be the underdog for starters. Even money at worst. He's a damn good pick here.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:27 AM   #41
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Yeah, Greb...you got to wonder how Langford would go too. Jones would certainly need to do 12/15 hard rounds to get the job done...
Langford was the first name to pop into my mind. However I'm not sure he would beat Jones.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:42 AM   #42
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Langford was the first name to pop into my mind. However I'm not sure he would beat Jones.
Put it this way; in a similair thread about Langford Jones' name would need to be given serious consideration. If you need to beat a phenom, I think you need to pick a phenom to get the job done.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:02 AM   #43
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Greb
Moore
Charles
Langford

They all have the attributes to beat him. All of these would be favourites though so it would not be an upset.

Calazaghe would be close but Jones would get my nod. Benn would win one out of 5 but Jones would be the boss, same with McClellan. Nunn could provide the upset though.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:25 AM   #44
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I might of harboured a sneaking feeling for a young Jimmy Ellis
At Midlle Young Jimmy acquited himself well with guys like Holman Williams and Rubin Carter, it was a quick deep education, when Jimmy left Middle, on his way to Heavy he started racking up a series of 1st Round Ko's, Curresy of his big right hand and sizzling combinations, culminating in one round KO of Hot-shot Johnny Persol

That Small Heavy Jimmy did not score that many ko's at Heavy was also because of the quality of heavy he faced, Ali, Frazier, Bonavena, Chuvalo, Quarry, Patterson ect, ect, so no disgrace for lack of Ko wins there !

The Ellis Betwwn Middle - Lt Heavy was Fast, a super boxer, could throw sizzling combinations, and had that Big Sneak right hand, at worst i think he woukld prove a real handful for Mr. Jones !
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:47 AM   #45
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Billy Conn was always a small light heavy and 168 would be a good fite for him maybe he could outwork Jones to a decision.
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