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Old 12-28-2012, 09:40 AM   #31
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No offense, IB, but this is the worst thread topic ever:

The very fact that you are putting emphasis (here, at least) on fighters with zero losses is what is destroying the sport of boxing. If these damn pussies would stop worrying about a few losses, they might all actually fight each other.


So no offense, & with all due respect, but **** THIS.


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Old 12-28-2012, 09:44 AM   #32
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Of course, if you'd care to ask for a ranking of ALL prospects, realizing as you probably do that a loss is a badge of honor (and experience) not shame, then I'd be happy to state that the most promising of the bunch are obviously:

Price, Wilder, and Dinu.

After that it really doesn't matter until these ****ers start fighting each other.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:38 AM   #33
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No offense, IB, but this is the worst thread topic ever:

The very fact that you are putting emphasis (here, at least) on fighters with zero losses is what is destroying the sport of boxing. If these damn pussies would stop worrying about a few losses, they might all actually fight each other.


So no offense, & with all due respect, but **** THIS.


This isn't glorifying the zero. It's merely a curiosity. Nobody is theorizing that having not lost yet makes you automatically better than a proven contender that's tasted defeat once or more. For instance, guys like Banks, Chisora and Charr are obviously above all but a few names on the list of 30.

It's all in fun. Nothing to do with propping up the almighty zero as some indicator of worth, especially where a lot of these men have yet to face a live body.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:02 PM   #34
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It's also sporting to speculate on the race to lose their zeros.

There's no treating the zero as precious or putting it on a pedestal here.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:33 PM   #35
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Here are the fighters I like, in order of most potential to least.
I haven't ranked fighters I don't rate or haven't seen enough of.
I haven't ranked Povetkin, because he's too established to be considered a prospect.

Malik Scott, 32 - United States 35-0 (12)
Vyacheslav Glazkov, 28 - Ukraine 14-0 (10)
David Price, 29 - United Kingdom 15-0 (13)
Tyson Fury, 24 - United Kingdom 20-0 (14)
Bryant Jennings, 28 - United Sates 16-0 (8.)
Mike Perez, 27 - Cuba 18-0 (12)
Bogdan Dinu, 26 - Romania 9-0 (6)
Amir Mansour, 40 - United States 16-0 (12)
Kubrat Pulev, 31 - Bulgaria 17-0 (9)
Lucas Browne, 33 - Australia 14-0 (13)
Leif Larsen, 37 - Norway 17-0 (14)

Also, IB, you should rank Vincent Thompson 12-0 (2). Lacks power but is more skilled than 50% of the names on your list. I haven't seen enough of him yet to rank him though.

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Old 12-28-2012, 02:54 PM   #36
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The following have also done enough in their careers to warrant being ranked (if you're ranking Carmack, you have to rate these guys)

Alexander Flores, 22 - United States 10-0-1 8 KOs (Don't read anything into the draw, it should have been an NC)
Ahror Muralimov, 25 - Uzbekistan 13-0 (11)
Irineu Beato Costa Jr, 32 - Brazil 13-0 (12)
Matteo Modugno, 25 - Italy 12-0 (6)
Arnold Gjergjaj, 28 - Albania/Switzerland 20-0 (14)
Newfel Ouatah, 27 - France 10-0 (6) (Karim Benzema's cousin)
Tomasz Hutkowski, 26 - Poland 21-0-2 (15)
Vladimir Tereshkin, 24 - Russia 15-0-1 (7) (Signed to K2)
Fred Allen, 25 - United States 14-0-1 (6)

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Old 12-28-2012, 02:56 PM   #37
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Anyone remember the name of the new K2 HW. Young guy, SP, big, and moving along well prior to promotional problems, but still has managed a respectable 15-0 record I think.

Dydenko or some shit?
Vladimir Tereshkin

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Old 12-28-2012, 03:02 PM   #38
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Fury is the best prospect Povetkin is for sure no prospect and even pulev is too old to be considered a prospect. And Boytsov hasn't faced a worthy opponnent yet and I have no hope for him
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:07 PM   #39
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Wow you actually dont know anything about boxing, i thought you did but just had occasional britfag tendencies. I was under the wrong impression all this time, good to know.
He doesn't know them.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:08 PM   #40
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I'm really struggling with seeing Fujimoto in the bracket above Pulev.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:18 PM   #41
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It's also sporting to speculate on the race to lose their zeros.

There's no treating the zero as precious or putting it on a pedestal here.
So then why not just ask to rank the top contenders?

A great fight with one loss doesn't even get mentioned here.

Makes no sense.


- Although it is AMAZING and illuminating to see how many of these guys actually ARE undefeated. Where are they finding all those opponents? The promoters must all have open accounts at the local "Cans R Us" store.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:02 PM   #42
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Thanks Z.

Drew with Adnan though. Seems like a fight he shoulda been able to win comfortably.

Gotta find it and see WHY.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:04 PM   #43
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The sad thing about that list is how many of them are actually fighting other contenders and not handpicked bums? One? Two at the most?

Does your '0' really mean anything if you are fighting a bunch of bums like Wilder and Price are?
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Old 12-29-2012, 02:42 PM   #44
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I've put in order the people I've actually seen fight.

Alexander Povetkin, WBA 'champion' few good wins, I think all four below him could beat him but they really should step up and prove it.

Kubrat Pulev, Only boxer I think would challenge Fury outside of K2.

Tyson Fury, Improved so much since the first McDermott fight, has everything in his arsenal to do well after K2

Vyacheslav Glazkov, only saw him the other week, looked very impressive.

Mike Perez, looked impressive in Prizefighter a while back, hope he fights more.

Denis Boytsov, looks good, needs to step up.

Bryant Jennings, best of the Americans, hope he faces Wilder.

David Price, over rated by my fellow Brits and the rest of the world, but still decent, needs to step up to go higher.

Robert Helenius, great win against Peter, but he should have lost to Chisora.

Malik Scott, wish he would step up, I'm not sure if he classes as a prospect as I suspect he will never step up, but he does look decent.

Artur Szpilka, watched him as he is hyped up by the poles, doesn't look all that good.

Deontay Wilder, I don't understand the hype, he looks hugely inexperienced (apparently is) and appears to have nothing but power.

Leif Larsen, I can't believe I got roped into watching this guy.

Amir Mansour, could have been higher but he won't go anywhere, far too late.

Richard Towers, going to go no where.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:20 AM   #45
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There's a lot of people to list here, so rather than rank them individually, I'll put them into brackets. The first bracket is for fighters who have potential, yet there are still question marks about them. They are the most promising fighters, providing they dedicate themselves and aren't hiding a terrible chin etc..


Bryant Jennings, 28 - United Sates 16-0 (
David Price, 29 - United Kingdom 15-0 (13)
Tyson Fury, 24 - United Kingdom 20-0 (14)
Mike Perez, 27 - Cuba 18-0 (12)
Magomed Abdusallamov, 31 - Russia 16-0 (16)
Deontay Wilder, 27 - United States 26-0 (26)
Andy Ruiz Jr., 23 - Mexico 17-0 (11)
Joe Hanks, 29 - United States 21-0 (14)
Kyotaro Fujimoto, 26 - Japan 5-0 (3)



The second bracket is for the guys who are alright. They won't ever set the world on fire but they aren't terrible either. I don't see them as being genuine world champions, or have the raw potential of the first bracket, but they are alright.


Alexander Povetkin, 33 - Russia 25-0 (17)
Kubrat Pulev, 31 - Bulgaria 17-0 (9)
Malik Scott, 32 - United States 35-0 (12)
David Rodriguez, 35 - United States 36-0 (34)
Lucas Browne, 33 - Australia 14-0 (13)
Oscar Rivas, 25 - Colombia 12-0 (7)
Amir Mansour, 40 - United States 16-0 (12)



The third bracket is full of useless fighters who are going nowhere. Some, like Towers and Helenius, have already been exposed, so even though they showed potential, they clearly aren't going to do anything.


Francesco Pianeta, 28 - Italy 28-0-1 (15)
Vyacheslav Glazkov, 28 - Ukraine 14-0 (10)
Denis Boytsov, 26 - Russia 31-0 (25)
Bogdan Dinu, 26 - Romania 9-0 (6)
Michael Wallisch, 27 - Germany 9-0 (6)
Richard Towers, 33 - United Kingdom 14-0 (11)
Artur Szpilka, 23 - Poland 12-0 (9)
Leif Larsen, 37 - Norway 17-0 (14)
Robert Helenius, 28 - Finland 18-0 (11)
Luis Ortiz, 33 - Cuba 19-0 (16)

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