Rank the unbeaten HW prospects the world over, in order.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Manning

Another one bites the dust.

First tier, 5-1...knocked out by a 37 year old domestic level Aussie rugby player turned can crusher who didn't have enough to claim the WBF title...against a 3-0 countryman. Ouch.

Maybe Whitehead should take Fujimoto's spot on the list?

[Big Left]

I haven't watch all of the ones on the list but I see the top 5 as:


Povetkin
Pulev
Helenius
Fury
Price

But some of these guys are still devolping and you never know who will make a massive leap forward & who will fall.

[Manning]

Based on accomplishments.

1. Povetkin
2. Pulev
3. Helenius
4. Fury
5. Glazkov
6. Boytsov
7. Abdulsalamov
8. Pianeta
9. Jennings
10 Price
11. Wilder
12. Wawrzyk
13. Scott
14. Spizka
15. Ortiz
16. Rodriguez
17. Larsen
18. Brown

I don't think anyone below that has really done anything of note to deserve to be ranked.

Head to head ranking would probably be ranked like this.

1. Povetkin
2. Pulev
3. Glazkov
4. Fury
5. Helenius
6. Price
7. Boytsov
8. Wilder
9. Ortiz
10. Jennings
11. Spizka
12. Abdulsalamov
13. Rodriguez
14. Pianeta
15. Scott
16. Wawrzyk
17. Larsen
18. Brown

[zxcvbnm]

Originally Posted by Manning

Head to head ranking would probably be ranked like this.

1. Povetkin
2. Pulev
3. Glazkov
4. Fury
5. Helenius
6. Price
7. Boytsov
8. Wilder
9. Ortiz
10. Jennings
11. Spizka
12. Abdulsalamov
13. Rodriguez
14. Pianeta
15. Scott
16. Wawrzyk
17. Larsen
18. Brown

You think that crude puncher Mago beats Scott?
He wouldn't land a punch.

[Manning]

Originally Posted by zxcvbnm

You think that crude puncher Mago beats Scott?
He wouldn't land a punch.

I could see him struggle there alright and I'd likely have Scott as the favourite but if I had to match all those 18 up against each other I reckon Mago pulls off more wins.

[DOM5153]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Inspired by a tangential offshoot under the Pulev vs. Glazkov topic...

Here is the pool of 30 names. Sort them as you will, and let's all compare notes!

To spice it up, I'll make Povetkin eligible for inclusion with the expectation that most will have him #1...but I'm curious to see if maybe a few put him lower.

(click names for Boxrec pages)

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I'll have a go at this tomorrow although im not familiar with everyone on that list.

[IntentionalButt]

Yeah, Malik would take Magomed to school.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by DOM5153

I'll have a go at this tomorrow although im not familiar with everyone on that list.

Youtube.

Most have stuff out there.

In some cases, only highlights.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Manning

You shouldn't take these things too seriously.

I don't rate Helenius at all, but do you honestly think I think he's an inferior fighter to Lucas Browne, who belongs on a door? Come on. My list has some genuine opinions in there but quite a bit of stirring too...which should have been obvious.


Price is genuinely the only solid prospect out there, I think. All the others have question marks around them, though I could feasibly see Abdusalamov, Wilder, Fury, Ruiz Jr., Perez, Pulev and Scott doing something. Dinu, Wallisch, Rodriguez, Towers, Browne, Larsen etc., will continue to build padded records until they fight someone decent, like Helenius did with Chisora, and they'll be exposed.

Feel free to refer to that in the future, rather than a clear piss take

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Manning

I could see him struggle there alright and I'd likely have Scott as the favourite but if I had to match all those 18 up against each other I reckon Mago pulls off more wins.

Indeed...lots of questionable punch resistance floating around.

[ChrisPontius]

Nice list, quite a good amount of up'n'cumers. Haven't seen all of them (I should).

Povetkin should be #1 based on accomplishments. However, since that injury late 2007 he hasn't been the same. It's kind of sad that his ability sort of drained away while never attempting to climb the summit. Similarly, Helenius probably has the 2nd best resume, but looked shit since the injury and although it reads W12 over Chisora, he probably should've lost. Don't even get me started on Boytsov.. :(

in terms of current potential, I like Pulev, Price, Povetkin, Glazkov and Fury. Pulev impresses me most: excellent defensive and general skills, though he lacks a straight right hand and could also use a bit more power. Price looks good, particularly in the power department. Fury is awkward and also lacks a big punch, but he does throw every punch in the book and seems to be quite motivated. Not great but decent. Povetkin I described above. Glazkov looks excellent.

Mind you, I wouldn't pick any of them over even current slowing-down Wlad. My bet would be on Price, maybe he could get in a freak right hand and score a TKO.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by ChrisPontius

Pulev impresses me most: excellent defensive and general skills, though he lacks a straight right hand and could also use a bit more power.

Pulev's right hand is awful at times. There was an occasion in the Dimitrenko fight where he threw three consecutive big right hands and each one missed by a mile. It's not like he's fighting a decent, tricky opponent either, it's the Lurch-esuqe Dimitrenko. Pulev's timing can be well off, so that should be a concern. It's not just his punching form which can be problematic, it's more than that.

I don't like the way he goes to the body either. He leaves himself far too open to counters and against a decent opponent, that'll cost him. Someone like Fury would exploit that, I think.

There are more issues, such as his footwork, punch output etc., but it's probably unfair to criticise him too much at this stage as he isn't a finished article yet. I'd say he has a way to go before being as well rounded as Price though.

[MaliBua]

Originally Posted by Jack

well rounded as Price though.

Well rounded?

He has Worst Glass Jaw ever he cant take punch for shit. He is sloppy, clumsy, off balance when he starts swinging and he has stamina problems.

He is British style KTFO waiting to happen.

And he looks like inbred retarded brit, his eyes are too close to each other.

[IntentionalButt]

Price has a better 1-2 and straight punches in general. He is absolutely not more well-rounded than Pulev.

Quite the opposite.

[Cableaddict]

Originally Posted by Jack

Price is genuinely the only solid prospect out there, I think. All the others have question marks around them....

I finally can agree with you, Jack !

Even Povetkin gets a "?" simply because he's already 33 y-o.