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Old 12-30-2012, 11:17 AM   #1
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Default Do you think Wladimir Klitschko won't be the same fighter now, after Steward's death?

Do you think he can maintain the same confidence in a big fight without Steward's calming influence? I mean, Jonathan Banks is no Manny Steward.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:14 PM   #2
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I don't think confidence enters into it much. The question when something like this happens for me is more a strategical one. I think Klitschko has a certain confidence in who he is/is supposed to be in there, and is as technically polished as he can get, mastered his style. But Steward's constant strategy input is another matter which has nothing to do with teaching boxing in general at this stage of Volo's career, and has nothing to do with Volo's usual highly disciplined lifestyle, but observation from a master about his upcoming opponents and how to deal with them the most effectively. There are some decent fighters out there that bring very different styles, like Povetkin and Pulev.

Steward's input may prove it was, even after so long, invaluable the next time Volo gets in the ring with someone like that, better fighters than the Wachs of the world. Just the same, Volo's a determined and intelligent man in his own right and Banks may not be any Steward, but he's a bright guy too. They should work everything out alright. Just the same, Volo's had a tough 2011-2012, losing Steward and the old man both. It shows you what a consummate professional he is that he's not been derailed by either loss against some complete surprise guy like Wach or Thompson-it's often the least expected man to get the job done and catch you at the right time or with just the right thing.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:25 PM   #3
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Default Re: Do you think Wladimir Klitschko won't be the same fighter now, after Steward's de

If from now on he fights like he did against Wach he gets knocked out by quite a handful of the worlds top HWs.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Do you think Wladimir Klitschko won't be the same fighter now, after Steward's de

if he has a tough fight Steward would have been very important, but Vlad has a lot of experience and he is not having many tough fights. He should make it through ok.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:55 AM   #5
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Default Re: Do you think Wladimir Klitschko won't be the same fighter now, after Steward's de

Wach landed that right hand on Wlad and Wlad went into panic mode for a few seconds like he does. I think if he gets in a firefight where someone can land several shots on him and keep the pressure up, he could mentally fall apart......especially without Steward there to hold his hand.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:58 AM   #6
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I love Wlad great guy but I feel like he already regressed in his first fight without Manny.

Like Tyson leaving Rooney. It doesn't take long and it might not be evident right away but the seams open up and slowly...

I thought he regressed.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:14 AM   #7
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if he has a tough fight Steward would have been very important, but Vlad has a lot of experience and he is not having many tough fights. He should make it through ok.


Emanuel Steward is with Wlad when he is fighting. He is in his heart and therefore Wlad will continue winning.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:43 AM   #8
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The rest of the division stinks or lacks the experience to Cause Wlad any problems in the near future. If anything I think Wlad will start opening up more on his overmatched opponents. At least I hope so.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:51 AM   #9
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I don't think confidence enters into it much. The question when something like this happens for me is more a strategical one. I think Klitschko has a certain confidence in who he is/is supposed to be in there, and is as technically polished as he can get, mastered his style. But Steward's constant strategy input is another matter which has nothing to do with teaching boxing in general at this stage of Volo's career, and has nothing to do with Volo's usual highly disciplined lifestyle, but observation from a master about his upcoming opponents and how to deal with them the most effectively. There are some decent fighters out there that bring very different styles, like Povetkin and Pulev.

Steward's input may prove it was, even after so long, invaluable the next time Volo gets in the ring with someone like that, better fighters than the Wachs of the world. Just the same, Volo's a determined and intelligent man in his own right and Banks may not be any Steward, but he's a bright guy too. They should work everything out alright. Just the same, Volo's had a tough 2011-2012, losing Steward and the old man both. It shows you what a consummate professional he is that he's not been derailed by either loss against some complete surprise guy like Wach or Thompson-it's often the least expected man to get the job done and catch you at the right time or with just the right thing.
Good post, agreed on all points. It will be interesting to see how he compensates for the lack of an expert pair of eyes on the outside.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:17 AM   #10
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I don't think confidence enters into it much. The question when something like this happens for me is more a strategical one. I think Klitschko has a certain confidence in who he is/is supposed to be in there, and is as technically polished as he can get, mastered his style. But Steward's constant strategy input is another matter which has nothing to do with teaching boxing in general at this stage of Volo's career, and has nothing to do with Volo's usual highly disciplined lifestyle, but observation from a master about his upcoming opponents and how to deal with them the most effectively. There are some decent fighters out there that bring very different styles, like Povetkin and Pulev.

Steward's input may prove it was, even after so long, invaluable the next time Volo gets in the ring with someone like that, better fighters than the Wachs of the world. Just the same, Volo's a determined and intelligent man in his own right and Banks may not be any Steward, but he's a bright guy too. They should work everything out alright. Just the same, Volo's had a tough 2011-2012, losing Steward and the old man both. It shows you what a consummate professional he is that he's not been derailed by either loss against some complete surprise guy like Wach or Thompson-it's often the least expected man to get the job done and catch you at the right time or with just the right thing.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:18 AM   #11
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Wach landed that right hand on Wlad and Wlad went into panic mode for a few seconds like he does. I think if he gets in a firefight where someone can land several shots on him and keep the pressure up, he could mentally fall apart......especially without Steward there to hold his hand.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:26 AM   #12
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He will do about as well as Floyd without Roger.

Wlad has learned enough to continue on his own.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:28 AM   #13
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Can't see how it can make him stronger. I was somewhat surprised he took the Wach fight on considering the timing. If he had of been fighting a serious fighter like Povetkin I doubt it would have took place.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:51 AM   #14
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I think there won't be much difference at all.
Maybe strategy wise like mentioned, but not technically not much.

No matter how good manny was for Wlad's development into the dominating force he is today, I think Wlad can actually benefit from another trainer at this time in his career who teaches him to trow bodyshots against opponents his size for example. Because quite a few of the guys coming up are as big or even bigger as him at the moment.
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