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Old 02-24-2008, 09:55 AM   #31
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maybe not in a particular fight, but Sam Langford and the other great black fighters pre Joe Louis who never got title shot. were shafted in their careers.
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:03 PM   #32
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Peter Buckley probably has been shafted in as many as 50 fights....
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:34 PM   #33
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Jimmy Young deserves a mention. In my opinion, he should've been given the verdict against Ali, making him linear heavyweight champion (a pretty good one at that) and freeing us from the borefest that were Ali championship fights around that time, as well as Leon Spinks.

I've read that the draw in his second fight with Shavers was a bad verdict as well though i haven't seen that one.

And then there was the close fight with Norton although i don't believe that one was a "robbery", just another close verdict that did not go his way. Mentally, he was done after that.


By the way, does anyone know if he had a nickname ?

Jimmy sure had ring savy. I watched the Young vs. Norton fight live on TV when I was 14-15 years old @ a multi-family social party. All them men glued to the 25" RCA, all the women in the other room, but some were sneaking looks @ the fight. I guess it was unlady like to actually be in the room with the TV. I was rooting for Norton and it was a very close fight. I remember right before the scorecards were read that I thought Norton squeeked it out but I was not confident till they awarded the fight to Norton. It was a lot like the Leonard vs. Haglar fight, because before the cards were read, I had know idea about that one, so I called it a draw.
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:45 PM   #34
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He was shafted in the Antufermo fight, and probably the Leonard fight, not to mention his opportunity to celebrate his winning the title was taken away from him as well.

I've only seen the Vito and SRL matches once, way back when they were broadcast. That Vito fight was awesome, I thought may Haglar won but not by much. Was that one ruled a draw?

Haglar vs. Leonard was a pick em' for me. I had no idea who one till they read the score cards.

Please clarify, the opportunity to celebrate. Wasn't that when all the beer bottles were hurled into the ring after the fight? That was a freakin' terrible discrace
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:01 PM   #35
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Please clarify, the opportunity to celebrate. Wasn't that when all the beer bottles were hurled into the ring after the fight? That was a freakin' terrible discrace
Well that Minter fella was all class; low class.
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:55 PM   #36
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Minter was a racist sack of shit from what I remember.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:07 AM   #37
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Which fighters were the most frequently on the wrong end of bad decisions, contracted to fight under unreasonable conditions, victims of biased referreing.

Who are the elite of the shafted?
For one fight Mexican Joe Rivers against Ad Wolgast,Fitz against Sharkey,Tyrone Everrett was an unlucky guy too.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:14 AM   #38
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I've only seen the Vito and SRL matches once, way back when they were broadcast. That Vito fight was awesome, I thought may Haglar won but not by much. Was that one ruled a draw?

Haglar vs. Leonard was a pick em' for me. I had no idea who one till they read the score cards.

Please clarify, the opportunity to celebrate. Wasn't that when all the beer bottles were hurled into the ring after the fight? That was a freakin' terrible discrace
Yeah, and rumour has it that was part of the reason Hagler declined Harry Gibbs, who's British, as a judge for his fight with Leonard. And Gibbs was replaced by the judge who scored the fight 118-110 for Leonard.

Gibbs later watched the fight on TV and scored it for Hagler.
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:03 PM   #39
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Yeah, and rumour has it that was part of the reason Hagler declined Harry Gibbs, who's British, as a judge for his fight with Leonard. And Gibbs was replaced by the judge who scored the fight 118-110 for Leonard.

Gibbs later watched the fight on TV and scored it for Hagler.
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Hagler needs to accept that he ****ed up the first 4 rds, let SRL bank them. I think it should have been a draw.
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:16 PM   #42
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One man who was shafted out of the heavyweight championship was Axel Shultz who IMO did well enough to take away George Foremans title and then in another Championship challenge was beaten bya Steroid fuelled Francois Botha... Axel never was a title holder but after an investigation into the IBf it was said that George was handed the victory due to some very shady under the table dealings.. Axel made George look pedestrian that night , it was a joke..
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One man who was shafted out of the heavyweight championship was Axel Shultz who IMO did well enough to take away George Foremans title and then in another Championship challenge was beaten bya Steroid fuelled Francois Botha... Axel never was a title holder but after an investigation into the IBf it was said that George was handed the victory due to some very shady under the table dealings.. Axel made George look pedestrian that night , it was a joke..
Great pick.

He got the SD loss to Moorer too.
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:33 PM   #44
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Great pick.

He got the SD loss to Moorer too.
Yes , in fact i went to Dortmund for that fight.. It was closer than first thought.. i remember Zielko Mavrovic featured too that night in the Westfallen stadium against Mark Young.....
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:13 PM   #45
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Great pick.

He got the SD loss to Moorer too.
I remember Akinwande being robbed blind in the first Schultz fight, so what goes around, comes around...
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