Who is the P4P hardest puncher of all time?

[Bill1234]

Originally Posted by Brickhaus

One punch power, probably Julian Jackson or Randall Bailey, at least since I've been following the sport. Shavers might have been a stronger puncher, but not on a pound for pound level.

Of the old schoolers, a lot of folks would say Jimmy Wilde or Sandy Saddler.

Another one of old would be Joe Choynski. When past his prime, he knocked Jack Johnson cold as Johnson was making his way up the boxing ladder.

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The two were put in prison for the fight immediately after.

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[Foxy 01]

Ffs let the idiots massage their own worthless ego's. The thread states p4p, therefore the Jackson's, McClellans, Hamed's of the game are the nominees, not Heavyweights. Lewis KTFO Tyson, but seeing as he was 2 stone heavier does it matter? Was Tyson the hardest 220 lb puncher? Possibly, who knows, or fucking cares?

[Mind Reader]

Bob Fitzsimmons, a natural middleweight and former MW champion knocked out the Heavyweight Champ in Jim Corbett with a body shot.. He gets my vote.

That would be similar to Jackson moving up and knocking out Holyfield with a body shot.

[Chempasillo]

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one of the two.

[SpeedKills]

A way to look at it is who hurt/ko'd much heavier and bigger fighters?

David Haye for instance, put a man 100+ lb's heavier on queer street with one punch
Well, it was 100lb's at the weigh in, who knows on fight night

trying to avoid fatties

[SpeedKills]

Originally Posted by Mind Reader

Bob Fitzsimmons, a natural middleweight and former MW champion knocked out the Heavyweight Champ in Jim Corbett with a body shot.. He gets my vote.

That would be similar to Jackson moving up and knocking out Holyfield with a body shot.

I'll go with Bob too

[Maximus]

Klitards

[macalpinerules]

If I hated someone really bad, I'd have a prime Foreman lay one on their chin.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Bill1234

Foreman has very few 1 punch KOs as well. Tyson was never a 1 punch-lights out kind of guy. Tyson rarely knocked guys unconcious, actually. They usually were still able to get up or at least trying when the ref stopped it. Same with Foreman.

Yes he was, absolutely.

There isn't a heavyweight since Louis who more routinely knocked down and out good durable heavyweights with single shots than Mike Tyson. As a one punch hitter he eclipses Shavers who never knocked anyone unconscious either and frequently had to beat them down to get the stoppage.

There are highlight videos devoted solely to Tyson's one punch KOs. You won't find a similar vid of Shavers because he only had one true one punch KO in his career (that's on tape), against Jimmy Ellis. The bulk of the rest of his wins inside the distance are TKOs or ref stoppages.

The idea that Tyson was an accumulation puncher and Shavers a one punch knockout artist is totally arse backwards, IMO. I don't know why such nonsense is still being propagated by educated boxing fans when it's so patently false.

Sorry to be blunt but if Shavers is such a hard hitter show me the proof in fights, don't bring up quotes.

Originally Posted by Bill1234

Marciano had more 1 punch KOs where the person was unconcious for minutes, but he didn't punch as hard as Shavers or Foreman.

Why not? He has the results to prove it doesn't he? P4P you could make a very good case that he was a harder one punch hitter. Of course objectively the large difference in weight has to be considered, but results are what must ultimately carry the flag here. And if you're putting guys' lights out on a regular basis as the Rock did, then it's a pretty good indication that you have serious one punch KO power.

Like you said, who are we to judge who hit harder? In lieu of common opponents, one has to make up one's mind by deduction and other means.

[IvyLeagueBoxing]

Julian Jackson... Ive never seen a straight right hand landing withsuch devastating effect..

Jackson's power was something extraordinary.. It was different

[blackbolt396]

Jackson had a fight I forget which one but he hit him with a left hook and pointed with his right hand where the dude was falling.

[Harvin87]

Tommy hearns

[denilo]

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Watch from 9.52

[Foxy 01]

Originally Posted by Mind Reader

Bob Fitzsimmons, a natural middleweight and former MW champion knocked out the Heavyweight Champ in Jim Corbett with a body shot.. He gets my vote.

That would be similar to Jackson moving up and knocking out Holyfield with a body shot.

Just playing devils advocate here ( because not even his family would accuse James Toney of being a natural Middleweight ) but isn't that exactly what James did, go from a Middleweight title, to KO'ing Holy with a body shot at Heavy?

[uraharakisuke]

Tommy Hearns and Hamed were the first two that came to mind.