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Old 02-15-2013, 02:33 AM   #106
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
Easy to claim Shavers had a lot of 1 punch KOs, but he only has one on film.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:37 AM   #107
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Probably Julian Jackson or Bob Fitszimmons
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:51 AM   #108
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Edwin Valero was a hard puncher...
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:41 AM   #109
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Earnie Shavers > Julian Jackson
for punching power.

P4P I say Earnie Shavers and Bob Fitzsimmons
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:54 AM   #110
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As far as I know he has only 1 one punch KO on film.
Including his rather bad resume, he probably didn't punch that hard.

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Cooney's left-hook is described as one of the most powerful punches in boxing history. Foreman, Holmes, and Lyle all stated that Cooney's left was the hardest they had ever taken. It is also notable that Holmes had also previously fought [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], and at the time stated Shavers had the most powerful blow he had ever received.
There's always a weirdo arguing that 1+1 is not equal to 2.
Left-hook is just one type of punch lol What about as an overall puncher...it's clearly Shavers.
He just didn't have boxing skills to compete any where NEAR to the likes of Holmes and Ali.

Foreman is P4P regarded as one of the biggest punches ever, in the top 10, and all of his opponents say Shavers is a bigger puncher than Foreman.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:15 AM   #111
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There's always a weirdo arguing that 1+1 is not equal to 2.
Left-hook is just one type of punch lol What about as an overall puncher...it's clearly Shavers.
He just didn't have boxing skills to compete any where NEAR to the likes of Holmes and Ali.

Foreman is P4P regarded as one of the biggest punches ever, in the top 10, and all of his opponents say Shavers is a bigger puncher than Foreman.
Show me 2 cases of Shavers one shotting a fighter that is knocked out cold.
Just two.

Heavyweights don't come close to the p4p power a guy like Julian Jackson had.

This is what Lewis has to say about who hit him the hardest:
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"Who hit me the hardest?
I didn't think about that, when you're in the ring you're just so focused."


In a professional fight when you're focused, you can't stand still and think.
"Wow that guy hit me the hardest"

And most probably when a guy hits you so hard you're KO'd for 10 minutes you don't remember the shot that put you out. (A shot like Jackson-Graham)

Also Shavers knew perfectly how to set up shots, working to the body a bit to lower their guards and strike.

"There's always a weirdo arguing that 1+1 is not equal to 2."
There isn't even a 1+1, there's only a 1, the other 1 should be the record to proof he was p4p the hardest, which there isn't.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:52 AM   #112
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Jackson
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Marciano
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Wilfredo Gomez
Danny Lopez
Gerald McClellan
Hearns
Shavers
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:27 PM   #113
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Show me 2 cases of Shavers one shotting a fighter that is knocked out cold.
Just two.

Heavyweights don't come close to the p4p power a guy like Julian Jackson had.

This is what Lewis has to say about who hit him the hardest:
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1:10

"Who hit me the hardest?
I didn't think about that, when you're in the ring you're just so focused."


In a professional fight when you're focused, you can't stand still and think.
"Wow that guy hit me the hardest"

And most probably when a guy hits you so hard you're KO'd for 10 minutes you don't remember the shot that put you out. (A shot like Jackson-Graham)

Also Shavers knew perfectly how to set up shots, working to the body a bit to lower their guards and strike.

"There's always a weirdo arguing that 1+1 is not equal to 2."
There isn't even a 1+1, there's only a 1, the other 1 should be the record to proof he was p4p the hardest, which there isn't.
Muhammad Ali, Ron Lyle, Larry Holmes and Ken Norton vs. ESB poster Dyna.

Case closed. Shavers not P4P puncher.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:07 PM   #114
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Muhammad Ali, Ron Lyle, Larry Holmes and Ken Norton vs. ESB poster Dyna.

Case closed. Shavers not P4P puncher.
Even if they were right, those were 30 years old quotes.
After those 30 years new boxers came:

Ray Mercer interview.

You were always known for having a rock solid chin. Who hit you the hardest in your professional career?

:Ray Mercer: Tommy Morrison. Morrison hit me so hard to the body with those hooks that I was actually farting in the ring. (Laughs) You have to act like…you can’t let the guy see that you’re hurt, but I’m pretty sure he heard and smelled a couple of things. (Laughs) But he hit me harder than I was ever hit in boxing.

Also Oliver Mccall who sparred with Tyson and has fought with Lewis said that Buster Douglas hit the hardest.

According to Steward (who always talked positive about Wlad) said Wlad has the most power punch per punch.


You either stop taking those quotes serious (including the Shavers quotes), or you stop having a reactionary view and look at new quotes or you start looking at actual evidence of the fighter his KO performances.
And Shavers doesn't have a good resume nor he has more than 2 one punch KOs


Julian Jackson p4p > any hw ever
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:48 PM   #115
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Naz Hamed by a mile. He's knocked out heavyweights in sparring
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:54 PM   #116
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Jackson had a fight I forget which one but he hit him with a left hook and pointed with his right hand where the dude was falling.
Buster Drayton (very durable and underrated fighter who'd just gone the full 15 in a war with another huge hitter in Matt Hilton) was the opponent. To this day the most badass KO I've ever seen. Jackson is the answer. No one I've watched put people to sleep the way he did. They'd either go stiff or limp, but they were out cold.


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Old 02-15-2013, 08:00 PM   #117
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Buster Drayton (very durable and underrated fighter who'd just gone the full 15 in a war with another huge hitter in Matt Hilton) was the opponent. To this day the most badass KO I've ever seen. Jackson is the answer. No one I've watched put people to sleep the way he did. They'd either go stiff or limp, but they were out cold.


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Man, that IS one bad-ass KO!
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:29 PM   #118
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Naz Hamed by a mile. He's knocked out heavyweights in sparring
proof?

Emmanuel Steward did say that Naz was the hardest puncher pound for pound that he ever trained...harder than Tommy Hearns.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:01 PM   #119
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proof?

Emmanuel Steward did say that Naz was the hardest puncher pound for pound that he ever trained...harder than Tommy Hearns.
Well unless he got hit by both of them he cant know that can he...
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #120
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