Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 - Page 3

HeavyweightCP · 01-02-2013, 05:17 AM

oscar uds floyd

The Joker · 01-02-2013, 06:20 AM

Tito would beat the shit out of little ass Floyd. Floyd would be on his bike afraid to engage. Tito has never lost to a fighter smaller than him. Dude even had a prime Oscar running late in the fight.

Prime Oscar does much better than the faded one Floyd fought. I think Oscar gets the SD win.

But such talk is stupid. Floyd retired when the division was hot with Cotto, PW and Margarito hanging around. He probably avoids the division altogether in the days of Tito and Oscar at that same weight.

MMJoe · 01-02-2013, 06:49 AM

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They were both legitimate p4p fighters at that weight class but i can't really see mayweather losing to either. maybe oscar makes it a closer fight but i think mayweather would edge it. Trinidad had immense power and was a good combination puncher, but i think he'd be too one dimensional for floyd, the only guys around that era who i feel would trouble floyd would be ike quartey,prime mosely and vernon forrest.

tough call

Concrete · 01-02-2013, 07:39 AM

Mayweather didn't grow into a full fledge WW until he faced Hatton at 30 about to be 31. Prime Hoya and Tito were like 25-28 at WW. They would have the size and prime advantage in this fantasy matchup. That said I could see him beating Tito and losing to Hoya. Hoya's jab, size, and movement at that stage would have allowed him to control the fight.

Those saying that Mayweather would have never fought them, It would be different curcumstances. Mayweather wouldn't be the PPV draw he is without his fight with Hoya. He would have to fight guys like Hoya and Tito in order to have became one. The whole reason he went to WW in the first place was to fight Hoya and Mosley and become a PPV attraction.

thewinfella · 01-02-2013, 07:56 AM

Trinidad was at his best at WW

Oscar was much better at 135 and 140, but i see his absolute peak years being as a LW (ability terms), pity he outgrown the weight quickly because he was a force from 135-140.

EJDiaZ · 01-02-2013, 08:01 AM

FMJ UD TiTo

avenel · 01-02-2013, 08:42 AM

you guys are smoking one mayweather would never face trinidad at 147 a prime beast undefeated 2 he would get koed

avenel · 01-02-2013, 08:43 AM

and even harder time beating oscar..he loses to both

Vidic · 01-02-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinky gloves

so you are saying prime DLH would not perform better than the ancient one?

Well that fight should have been an SD, not a UD, so yes, a SD in his prime would actually be a better performance.

Bald_Toad · 01-02-2013, 09:22 AM

No way would he beat a 90's Oscar or Felix.

Counterclock · 01-02-2013, 09:45 AM

Tito was 5'11 a with an arm reach of 72'1/12

The smallest man to beat him was a Winky Wright who fought between 154-160 pounds, was 5"10 1/2 with an arm reach of 72.

Floyd is 5'8 with an arm reach of 72.

You think he would be able to hit Tito without getting hit back?

After seeing the 154 pound fight between De La Hoya-Mayweather, Im confident a faster ad younger De La Hoya outboxes him at 147.

ReadyOrNot · 01-02-2013, 09:48 AM

Floyds defense, chin, jab and body work in his prime would be enough to beat both guys. There is a reason why Dlh, Tito, and Ike did not fight Vernon Forrest, and took on lesser men at that weight. Forrest was a world class boxer, and so is Floyd. Floyd's size would not be a detriment to him at age 30 at ww against those guys.

bw51 · 01-02-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ReadyOrNot

Floyds defense, chin, jab and body work in his prime would be enough to beat both guys. There is a reason why Dlh, Tito, and Ike did not fight Vernon Forrest, and took on lesser men at that weight. Forrest was a world class boxer, and so is Floyd. Floyd's size would not be a detriment to him at age 30 at ww against those guys.

vernon forrest was nearly 6 foot, you cannot compare floyd and vernon.
fighters with totally different attributes.

MrPR · 01-02-2013, 10:35 AM

Felix Trinidad was a 5'11 Tall welterweight with Dangerous punching power in both hands . We all know Floyd doesnt get into the rings with guys like that and even if he did Trinidad outworks Floyd with activity cause Floyd would slightly feel titos power early and begin to play it safe using his movement and speed advantage to prevent himself from getting caught with a BOMB for the rest of the fight . If Mayweather gets caught ,90% hes going to be laid out . Trinidad 116-112 .

jan_fan · 01-02-2013, 10:42 AM

So much to talk about fantasy fights cause these are the fights that aren't happening anyway.
BTW, Floyd TKOs both early

01-02-2013, 05:17 AM	#31
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01-02-2013, 06:20 AM	#32
The Joker Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,180 vCash: 1000	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Tito would beat the shit out of little ass Floyd. Floyd would be on his bike afraid to engage. Tito has never lost to a fighter smaller than him. Dude even had a prime Oscar running late in the fight. Prime Oscar does much better than the faded one Floyd fought. I think Oscar gets the SD win. But such talk is stupid. Floyd retired when the division was hot with Cotto, PW and Margarito hanging around. He probably avoids the division altogether in the days of Tito and Oscar at that same weight.
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01-02-2013, 07:39 AM	#34
Concrete Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,982 vCash: 1000	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Mayweather didn't grow into a full fledge WW until he faced Hatton at 30 about to be 31. Prime Hoya and Tito were like 25-28 at WW. They would have the size and prime advantage in this fantasy matchup. That said I could see him beating Tito and losing to Hoya. Hoya's jab, size, and movement at that stage would have allowed him to control the fight. Those saying that Mayweather would have never fought them, It would be different curcumstances. Mayweather wouldn't be the PPV draw he is without his fight with Hoya. He would have to fight guys like Hoya and Tito in order to have became one. The whole reason he went to WW in the first place was to fight Hoya and Mosley and become a PPV attraction.
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01-02-2013, 07:56 AM	#35
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,235 vCash: 75	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Trinidad was at his best at WW Oscar was much better at 135 and 140, but i see his absolute peak years being as a LW (ability terms), pity he outgrown the weight quickly because he was a force from 135-140.
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avenel Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,525 vCash: 1000	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 you guys are smoking one mayweather would never face trinidad at 147 a prime beast undefeated 2 he would get koed
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Bald_Toad Ring Title ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,213 vCash: 75	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 No way would he beat a 90's Oscar or Felix.
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01-02-2013, 09:45 AM	#41
Counterclock Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 74 vCash: 500	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Tito was 5'11 a with an arm reach of 72'1/12 The smallest man to beat him was a Winky Wright who fought between 154-160 pounds, was 5"10 1/2 with an arm reach of 72. Floyd is 5'8 with an arm reach of 72. You think he would be able to hit Tito without getting hit back? After seeing the 154 pound fight between De La Hoya-Mayweather, Im confident a faster ad younger De La Hoya outboxes him at 147.
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01-02-2013, 09:48 AM	#42
ReadyOrNot newbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 43 vCash: 500	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Floyds defense, chin, jab and body work in his prime would be enough to beat both guys. There is a reason why Dlh, Tito, and Ike did not fight Vernon Forrest, and took on lesser men at that weight. Forrest was a world class boxer, and so is Floyd. Floyd's size would not be a detriment to him at age 30 at ww against those guys.
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01-02-2013, 10:35 AM	#44
MrPR Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bronx Posts: 3,340 vCash: 1000	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 Felix Trinidad was a 5'11 Tall welterweight with Dangerous punching power in both hands . We all know Floyd doesnt get into the rings with guys like that and even if he did Trinidad outworks Floyd with activity cause Floyd would slightly feel titos power early and begin to play it safe using his movement and speed advantage to prevent himself from getting caught with a BOMB for the rest of the fight . If Mayweather gets caught ,90% hes going to be laid out . Trinidad 116-112 .
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01-02-2013, 10:42 AM	#45
jan_fan Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 984 vCash: 500	Re: Mayweather would have beaten a prime ODLH and Trinidad at 147 So much to talk about fantasy fights cause these are the fights that aren't happening anyway. BTW, Floyd TKOs both early
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