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Old 01-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #16
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Slickster, thanks for saving me from having to say all of that. Some people sure lack basic reading comprehension and common sense.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:06 PM   #17
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Very detailed video, but if you were to watch that having not seen the three fights you would think JMM dominated Pac in all their meetings. Bar the final second of 42 rounds they have fought they have been each others equal, it's almost like Jmm gets higher praise of he's performances because PAC couldn't dominate him.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:12 PM   #18
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I sound a bit of a Pactard in that previous post, don't get me wrong, anybody who thinks Marquez didn't deserve the nod in one of the previous 3 fights is deluded, I even picked JMM to beat or in my words "give him hell" in the rubber match, and was proved right, it was obvious. But in my opinion I think the spotlight is so focused on PAC and he has and had so many waiting for he's fall from grace that any close round he fought against Marquez was turned into a "clear" round against him causing so many to cry robbery when all it and they was were very close fights.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:16 PM   #19
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Read the first post next time. The video was about the third fight not the fourth.

That video was hardly about Mayweather or why the video maker thinks some of pacquiao's opponent selection in recent years has sucked.



Dumbest replies. You can know as much as possible, but only a few can explain what they know in a manner which is easy for all to understand. Seeing a video which displays what happened is much more efficient than reading walls of text especially when every asshole on a boxing forum has an opinion.
Definitely a useful and insightful breakdown explained simply. Some great points in that vid. Wonder if they'll make one for the 4th.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:20 PM   #20
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Very detailed video, but if you were to watch that having not seen the three fights you would think JMM dominated Pac in all their meetings. Bar the final second of 42 rounds they have fought they have been each others equal, it's almost like Jmm gets higher praise of he's performances because PAC couldn't dominate him.
I think it illustrates the biggest issue why JMM could not get a decision, he does so many subtle little things but Pac throws so many punches that either land air or get parried but he still gets points for them.

Its what people have pointed out often... when it comes to the SCORING criteria in boxing.

- Effective aggression
- Clean punching
- Ring generalship
- Defense.

JMM dominated.... but some judges (corrupt or not) and the public that do not know what to look for get duped by the high speed volume of punches.

Pac has ineffective aggression going for him.

Sure Pac has successes vs JMM, he is a ATG for crying out loud, but if you watch closely JMM is almost always in control.

He controls the range, the pace, the output.

Round wise the best Pac has ever done was the 4th fight and that was only because JMM said **** it im not going to win unless i knock him the **** out.

People don't know what to look for and that's why judges often get away robbing fighters.

Also imho the only fight i would not argue either way was the 1st... i could see a draw or JMM winning but i wont argue with Pac winning a close one.
2nd was JMM close but clear, third i question someones intelligence or eyesight if they score it for Pac.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:48 PM   #21
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Read the first post next time. The video was about the third fight not the fourth.

That video was hardly about Mayweather or why the video maker thinks some of pacquiao's opponent selection in recent years has sucked.



Dumbest replies. You can know as much as possible, but only a few can explain what they know in a manner which is easy for all to understand. Seeing a video which displays what happened is much more efficient than reading walls of text especially when every asshole on a boxing forum has an opinion.
Did I even say it was about Fraud?? No I used him as an example of another fighter like JMM who is a great technician. You are right the guy put it well better than I could of, but that could be down to the fact that I am dyslexic and find it hard to put it down in writting.
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