anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter?

IRONSENSE2002 · 01-01-2013, 05:26 PM

anyone noticed how his name has gotten overshadowed by the much smaller lightweight molina because of the khan fight. no one knows who the guy is anymore and there running from him like crazy, ppl forget how he was robbed against kirkland and lara. The guys is up there with trout and mayweather.

Steven.Jackson · 01-01-2013, 05:33 PM

I think he has a fight on ESPN coming up

macalpinerules · 01-01-2013, 05:33 PM

Molina is def. one of the most underrated boxers in the sport today. His performances against Chavez, Lara, Kirkland, and cintron shows that he is consistent and has a difficult style to deal with.

Vyborg1917 · 01-01-2013, 05:35 PM

I find his style almost unwatchable; style being a fighters inherent marketing tool. He gets no sympathy from me.

TommyV · 01-01-2013, 05:35 PM

He called out Golovkin at one point. Seeing as nobody at 160 wants anything to do with him, I was hoping Molina would get that shot. A far more deserving and tougher challenger than a guy who Angulo blew out in 2 rounds with ease.

Richel Hersisia · 01-01-2013, 05:37 PM

He holds way way way to much..

kirk · 01-01-2013, 05:58 PM

I feel like the ref kinda robbed Kirkland of the stoppage win that was coming his way, despite Molinas roughhouse tactics and dirty fighting.

kirk · 01-01-2013, 05:59 PM

As for Molina. Hes a top 154lber fighter for sure, but with such an unpleasing style and no fan base to speak of really, to go along with the danger he poses for upsetting fighters.... hes going to have a hard time finding good fights.

purephase · 01-01-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kirk

As for Molina. Hes a top 154lber fighter for sure, but with such an unpleasing style and no fan base to speak of really, to go along with the danger he poses for upsetting fighters.... hes going to have a hard time finding good fights.

Of course he's probably taken on more names at 154 than pretty much anyone else in the division. His problem has been getting fair treatment in those fights.

saul_ir34 · 01-01-2013, 06:32 PM

He has only been overshadowed by idiotic fans like you. The guy is top in the division. He is avoided for a reason. He is tough as ****.

He made tough guy Kirkland his bitch and was robbed of a kd himself. That was one of the biggest disgraces of a stoppage.

Molina can beat anyone at 154. Canelo Trout and PBF included.

IRONSENSE2002 · 01-01-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

He has only been overshadowed by idiotic fans like you. The guy is top in the division. He is avoided for a reason. He is tough as ****.

He made tough guy Kirkland his bitch and was robbed of a kd himself. That was one of the biggest disgraces of a stoppage.

Molina can beat anyone at 154. Canelo Trout and PBF included.

thats what i think, and i'm not an idiotic fanboy

TommyV · 01-01-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

He has only been overshadowed by idiotic fans like you. The guy is top in the division. He is avoided for a reason. He is tough as ****.

He made tough guy Kirkland his bitch and was robbed of a kd himself. That was one of the biggest disgraces of a stoppage.

Molina can beat anyone at 154. Canelo Trout and PBF included.

Molina beating Mayweather.

He's getting vastly over-rated in this thread now...

saul_ir34 · 01-01-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyV

Molina beating Mayweather.

He's getting vastly over-rated in this thread now...

Dude PBF struggled with Cotto plus Molina is a good size LMW and very strong on the inside. He was handling Kirkland like a kid in there and Kirkland is known for his strength.

I actually would love to see that fight. The inside fighting would be awesome and i think for the first time PBF would be uncomfortable on the inside. Floyd don't want none of Molina on the inside.

kirk · 01-01-2013, 07:19 PM

Just imo, how he stacks up with the division.

vs Kirkland. If Molina couldnt beat Kirkland in that fight, in which the ref allowed him to fight doing anything he wanted, pushing, holding, grappling, ect.... to try and stuff kirklands offense, and Kirkland still wore him down, and the same would happen again. And if they had a ref that actually did his job (not DQ'ing in a bullshit stoppage, but not letting Molina fight like that in the first place) then James gets to Molina even earlier. I dont see him ever beating a conditioned and peak Kirkland (which Im not sure we will ever see again) But to be honest, not sure I should even be including James here, Kirkland is on the border of no longer being relivant to the division. Hes screwed his career over for the time being. And when he does come back I dont expect him to be the same force (have to wait n see obviously though) and if Molina stays active from here then not sure who id favor in a rematch.

vs Mayweather, he could do well.... Id have Mayweather the favorite but Molina would make it rough in there by the nature of his style and size.

vs Canelo, would be a decent fight, Id still favor Canelo but I think if Canelo doesnt stop Molina that Molina makes it close. Oh, and theres no way GBP lets Molina fight Canelo with that ugly n rough shit. The ref would be warning n taking points from Molina all night if he tried that. luckily for Molina he can box when he needs to, Canelo is an opponent I think he could box with. Kirkland his only hope was to fight in the manner he did, I dont think he would have to do that with Canelo.

vs Angulo. I think Molina beats Angulo fairly easily to be honest.

vs Trout. Not sure

vs Cotto. Not sure, think im favoring Molina at this point.... hard to know when robberies will happen but fair refs I think would see it for Molina.

BOXING DON · 01-01-2013, 07:20 PM

I see him as a 'spoiler-type', that most guys will avoid, because they won't look good against his style, but yeah, he shouldn't be discredited for that. I wouldn't let my fighter fight him unless i HAD to, to much of a risk.

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IRONSENSE2002 muslim and proud ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Birmingham/Leeds/azad kashmir(Mirpur) Posts: 2,626 vCash: 75	anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? anyone noticed how his name has gotten overshadowed by the much smaller lightweight molina because of the khan fight. no one knows who the guy is anymore and there running from him like crazy, ppl forget how he was robbed against kirkland and lara. The guys is up there with trout and mayweather.
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macalpinerules Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 410 vCash: 500	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? Molina is def. one of the most underrated boxers in the sport today. His performances against Chavez, Lara, Kirkland, and cintron shows that he is consistent and has a difficult style to deal with.
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Vyborg1917 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 651 vCash: 792	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? I find his style almost unwatchable; style being a fighters inherent marketing tool. He gets no sympathy from me.
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TommyV P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South-East/Greater London. Posts: 16,251 vCash: 1987	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? He called out Golovkin at one point. Seeing as nobody at 160 wants anything to do with him, I was hoping Molina would get that shot. A far more deserving and tougher challenger than a guy who Angulo blew out in 2 rounds with ease.
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kirk ConquerorChozen1Attila* East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ill swallow my Blood before i swallow my Pride Posts: 22,472 vCash: 75	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? I feel like the ref kinda robbed Kirkland of the stoppage win that was coming his way, despite Molinas roughhouse tactics and dirty fighting.
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kirk ConquerorChozen1Attila* East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ill swallow my Blood before i swallow my Pride Posts: 22,472 vCash: 75	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? As for Molina. Hes a top 154lber fighter for sure, but with such an unpleasing style and no fan base to speak of really, to go along with the danger he poses for upsetting fighters.... hes going to have a hard time finding good fights.
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saul_ir34 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,763 vCash: 675	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? He has only been overshadowed by idiotic fans like you. The guy is top in the division. He is avoided for a reason. He is tough as ****. He made tough guy Kirkland his bitch and was robbed of a kd himself. That was one of the biggest disgraces of a stoppage. Molina can beat anyone at 154. Canelo Trout and PBF included.
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kirk ConquerorChozen1Attila* East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ill swallow my Blood before i swallow my Pride Posts: 22,472 vCash: 75	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? Just imo, how he stacks up with the division. vs Kirkland. If Molina couldnt beat Kirkland in that fight, in which the ref allowed him to fight doing anything he wanted, pushing, holding, grappling, ect.... to try and stuff kirklands offense, and Kirkland still wore him down, and the same would happen again. And if they had a ref that actually did his job (not DQ'ing in a bullshit stoppage, but not letting Molina fight like that in the first place) then James gets to Molina even earlier. I dont see him ever beating a conditioned and peak Kirkland (which Im not sure we will ever see again) But to be honest, not sure I should even be including James here, Kirkland is on the border of no longer being relivant to the division. Hes screwed his career over for the time being. And when he does come back I dont expect him to be the same force (have to wait n see obviously though) and if Molina stays active from here then not sure who id favor in a rematch. vs Mayweather, he could do well.... Id have Mayweather the favorite but Molina would make it rough in there by the nature of his style and size. vs Canelo, would be a decent fight, Id still favor Canelo but I think if Canelo doesnt stop Molina that Molina makes it close. Oh, and theres no way GBP lets Molina fight Canelo with that ugly n rough shit. The ref would be warning n taking points from Molina all night if he tried that. luckily for Molina he can box when he needs to, Canelo is an opponent I think he could box with. Kirkland his only hope was to fight in the manner he did, I dont think he would have to do that with Canelo. vs Angulo. I think Molina beats Angulo fairly easily to be honest. vs Trout. Not sure vs Cotto. Not sure, think im favoring Molina at this point.... hard to know when robberies will happen but fair refs I think would see it for Molina.
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BOXING DON Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 368 vCash: 500	Re: anyone feel sorry for carlos molina the 154lb fighter? I see him as a 'spoiler-type', that most guys will avoid, because they won't look good against his style, but yeah, he shouldn't be discredited for that. I wouldn't let my fighter fight him unless i HAD to, to much of a risk.
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