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Old 01-03-2013, 03:24 AM   #1
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Patterson met one-time pal Tommy Jackson in a box off for the right to meet defeated HW title challenger Archie Moore in a fight to replace the retired Marciano as champion of the world. If there was to be a fourth fighter nominated to box Moore in an additional semi-final, who do you think would have got the nod? Any wildcards around? Could they have dug up a white guy? Anyone you think would have troubled, or beaten Moore?
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Patterson met one-time pal Tommy Jackson in a box off for the right to meet defeated HW title challenger Archie Moore in a fight to replace the retired Marciano as champion of the world. If there was to be a fourth fighter nominated to box Moore in an additional semi-final, who do you think would have got the nod? Any wildcards around? Could they have dug up a white guy? Anyone you think would have troubled, or beaten Moore?
When I think about it... There was nobody. Willie Pastrano perhaps.
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There was the uncrowned People's Champion, Nino Valdes.
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There was the uncrowned People's Champion, Nino Valdes.
Yeah but that's scraping the barrel a bit, Moore already beat him twice.
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Yeah but that's scraping the barrel a bit, Moore already beat him twice.
Yes, but Marciano had ducked him for ages.
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A couple of 'left field' options; the European champion was the pretty ordinary Italian Franco Cavicchi. At least a Moore win over him, would of given the illusion of a 'world' title eliminator.

Another option, which with hindsight is fun, but at the time was not really on the table. Johansson had just fought his first 10 rounder in early 56...

But as well as being very 'raw', he came with the baggage of being known (wrongly) as a bit of a dog after the 52 Olympics.
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Yes, but Marciano had ducked him for ages.
True. Valdes shit him up majorly, which is why Marciano opted to fight Grandfather Moore (after Grandfather Walcott, Grandfather Louis, Charles' Husk, Fatty ****ell and Nobody LaStarza).

But still, Moore beat him twice. The division was incredibly thin for a couple of years.
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Eddie Machen

An eight man tournament would have been preferable.
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I always thought Moore got the nod because of his 15 round victory over Valdez. Now my curiosity is piqued, so I have to research this.
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A couple of 'left field' options; the European champion was the pretty ordinary Italian Franco Cavicchi. At least a Moore win over him, would of given the illusion of a 'world' title eliminator.

Another option, which with hindsight is fun, but at the time was not really on the table. Johansson had just fought his first 10 rounder in early 56...

But as well as being very 'raw', he came with the baggage of being known (wrongly) as a bit of a dog after the 52 Olympics.
Moore vs. Johanssen would have been interesting while it lasted. Would you agree that Moore probably wins by KO?
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Moore vs. Johanssen would have been interesting while it lasted. Would you agree that Moore probably wins by KO?
Yes, Johansson was not ready to step up to that level yet. But it would not of been too surprising (with hindsight), to see the Ol' Mongoose having to get off the floor, to get the job done.
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Patterson met one-time pal Tommy Jackson in a box off for the right to meet defeated HW title challenger Archie Moore in a fight to replace the retired Marciano as champion of the world. If there was to be a fourth fighter nominated to box Moore in an additional semi-final, who do you think would have got the nod? Any wildcards around? Could they have dug up a white guy? Anyone you think would have troubled, or beaten Moore?
Why not Liston? He had already beaten a decent Summerlin twice, avenged the loss to Marshall, and beaten a 15-1 Brtko prior to 1956.
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Why not Liston? He had already beaten a decent Summerlin twice, avenged the loss to Marshall, and beaten a 15-1 Brtko prior to 1956.
He beat up a police officer and was sent to prison.
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He beat up a police officer and was sent to prison.
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