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Old 01-04-2013, 03:51 AM   #16
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there's a huge difference.

Vitali didn't get a chance earlier on and jumped on the fist (and afterwards last) chance he got.
Lewis wasn't actually that old (37) at the time, and came of 2 impressive wins instead of showing age. He just wasn't very motivated anymore and was expecting to fight Johnson, who he probably would have destroyed even in the shape he was in.

Haye and other HW's have had plenty of chances to fight Vitali but chose not to because they knew they would lose. Now that he's clearly aging they smell their chance and suddenly all want to fight him.

They'll probably still lose anyway.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:52 AM   #17
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But yeah, they are sensing an opportunity now that Vit is old. Who can blame them?
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:53 AM   #18
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:24 AM   #19
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Vitali knows whether he is fit enough to fight another fight or not. If he is going to fight Haye, he knows he is going to win. Vitali does not live in dreamland. He knows he is aging but still he is in good shape as well and still has all the goods it needs. His reflexes are still there, his accuracy is still there and his ring generalship cannot be taken from him anyways.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:55 AM   #20
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Love how Lewis fans claim he was suddenly ancient

Yes Lewis was heavy, but fat?... I don't think so. It was Lewis' fault for being arrogant regarding the Klitschko's.

Vitali was the first live opponent Lewis faced since Holyfield......., Grant, Botha, Rahman and Tyson he isn't.

Remember Lewis fans, he is like a fine wine.... well that's when he's dismantling what's left of Tyson, you can't suddenly say he's shot when he actually fights someone who's not turned up for the payday.

As for the thread if I was Vitali id retire, good career, made his money and he is actually looking old, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:46 AM   #21
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Love how Lewis fans claim he was suddenly ancient

Yes Lewis was heavy, but fat?... I don't think so. It was Lewis' fault for being arrogant regarding the Klitschko's.

Vitali was the first live opponent Lewis faced since Holyfield......., Grant, Botha, Rahman and Tyson he isn't.

Remember Lewis fans, he is like a fine wine.... well that's when he's dismantling what's left of Tyson, you can't suddenly say he's shot when he actually fights someone who's not turned up for the payday.

As for the thread if I was Vitali id retire, good career, made his money and he is actually looking old, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
If he fought Wlad that night he would probably have been knocked out...
Vitali was picked between Wlad and him.

But prime for prime, Lewis > Wlad > Vitali > (almost anyone)
Maybe if he proves himself some more I put Wlad above Lewis.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:53 AM   #22
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Well wlad is still as good as ever.

Vitali has slipped noticeably in recent fights I mean chisora gave him all he can handle.

If Vitali feels he's too old he should retire. As it is, fighting him is the only realistic chance of getting a belt.
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If he fought Wlad that night he would probably have been knocked out...
Vitali was picked between Wlad and him.

But prime for prime, Lewis > Wlad > Vitali > (almost anyone)
Maybe if he proves himself some more I put Wlad above Lewis.
Lewis was lucky imo.

Lewis had always had trouble with people who can match or better his jab, plus Klitschko's height and strength was causing him problems. How often have you seen Lennox pushed back in the clinches, and Vitali was walking him back.

As you said though prime for prime Lewis>Wlad>Vitali, but Wlad is closing the gap.
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Well wlad is still as good as ever.

Vitali has slipped noticeably in recent fights I mean chisora gave him all he can handle.

If Vitali feels he's too old he should retire. As it is, fighting him is the only realistic chance of getting a belt.
I would like to see Vitali retire on top, if I was advising him I would ask him to retire.

If he carries on and the Haye fight isn't made it would probably be Fury or Arreola again, would he be able to get up for those kinds of fights?
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3-4 years ago every one was running as fast as they could to get away from him .....Fury ..Haye ....but I don't see them wanting a shot at Wlad cuz they know what comes with it ......Haye got owned and fury wouldnt go 4 with Wlad ... but id still put all my $ on Vitali against Fury ...Haye ? well thats another story if Vitali's reflexes are good enough he would slap the shit out of haye .... I do hope he go's out fighting Haye though ....Haye is #3 in my book and #1 already chased him around scared for 12 but him and and Vitali would bang ....
3 of 4 years ago, Fury had 6 fights, and Haye was having his first fight at HW (And Vitali was as usual, fighting sub-par opponents)

If these are the guys you are saying he should be fighting I'm not surprised you think the rest of his resume is great
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Lewis was lucky imo.

Lewis had always had trouble with people who can match or better his jab, plus Klitschko's height and strength was causing him problems. How often have you seen Lennox pushed back in the clinches, and Vitali was walking him back.

As you said though prime for prime Lewis>Wlad>Vitali, but Wlad is closing the gap.
Certainly true, without Steward in his corner I'm sure he would have lost.
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