**** Kirks ESB Championships ****

[PinoyProdigy]

JANUARY FIGHT LIST
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LEAGUE SCHEDULER
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PINOY PRODIGY

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* Result Commentary by Robney
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1/4 - Rances Barthelemy vs. Arash Usmanee - 12x3 IBF Super Featherweight Eliminator for #2 (ESPN2) - Barthelemy UD - 115-113/116-112/116-112 - Not a robbery like a couple think, especially Teddy Atlas, had it 115-113 Barthelemy myself (PinoyProdigy)
1/11 - John Molina vs. Dannie Williams - 10x3 (ESPN2) Molina KO4 - big right hook to the temple.
1/11 - Ronny Rios vs. Rico Ramos - 10x3 NABF Featherweight Title (Showtime) Rios UD - 100-90/97-93/96-94 - close bout as expected, one judge with a pre filled out card obviously.
1/12 - Adrian Hernandez vs. Dirceu Cabarca - 12x3 WBC Light Flyweight Title - Hernandez UD - 118-110/118-108/119-112
1/19 - Sergey Kovalev vs. Gabriel Campillo - 10x3 (NBC Sports Network) - Kovalev TKO3 - Campillo completely outclassed, down 3 times in the 3rd and stopped. Kovalev is the real thing!
1/19 - Roman Martinez vs. Juan Carlos Burgos - 12x3 WBO Super Featherweight Title (HBO) - DRAW - 117-111/112-116/114-114 Burgos rattled Martinez' body with hard shots over the complete length of the bout... WAR MINIBURGOS!
1/19 - Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado - 12x3 WBA World & IBO Middleweight Titles (HBO) - Golovkin TKO7 - Rosado made it much longer as I expected, and didn't go down being bloodied, busted up and rocked a couple of times.
1/19 - Orlando Salido vs. Miguel Angel Garcia - 12x3 WBO Featherweight Title (HBO) - Garcia TUD8 - 79-70/79-69/79-69 - Salido down twice in the 1st, round 3 and 4. Garcia battered Salido until a "accidental" headbutt broke his nose and the fight went to the cards
1/25 - Miguel Gonzalez vs. Tony Luis - 10x3 (ESPN2)
1/25 - Serhiy Dzinziruk vs. Brian Vera - 10x3 (ESPN2)
1/25 - Demetrius Andrade vs. Freddy Hernandez - 10x3 (Showtime)
1/26 - Selcuk Aydin vs. Jesus Soto Karass - 10x3 (Showtime)
1/26 - Lucas Martin Matthysse vs. Mike Dallas Jr. - 12x3 Interim WBC Light Welterweight Title (Showtime)
1/26 - Hugo Fidel Cazares vs. Rey Perez - 12x3 NABF Bantamweight Title
1/30 - Daniel Geale vs. Anthony Mundine II - 12x3 IBF Middleweight Title (Australia Main Event)

[BeastsideBoxing]

I see BigBone is the only champ who got defeats. He's probably old and shot, his best days might be behind him.

[PinoyProdigy]

*************KIRKS ESB CHAMPIONSHIPS 2012**************
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OFFICIAL RANKINGS
Beastsideboxing 7-0 (5 KO)WBK Champion $80
Robney 7-0 (5 KO) $45 Geale UD
Mr Butt 7-0 (5 KO) $45
Drinquor 7-0 (4 KO) $70
IntentionalButt 7-0 (4 KO)$60
DemolitionDan 7-0 (4 KO) 2010 Champion $55
Rumsfeld 7-0 (4 KO) $55
Tackleberry 7-0 (3 KO) 2011 Champion & Peoples Champion $50
David B 7-0 (2 KO) 2012 Champion $60
Brand 6-0 (3 KO) $45
Kirk 6-0 (3 KO)$35
jdr 6-1 (4 KO)$25
Malden 6-1 (3 KO)$45
Nellybc 6-1 (3 KO) $45
Fighter2R 6-1 (2 KO) $45
PinoyProdigy 6-1 (2 KO)$45
des3995 5-2 (2 KO) $55
Bladerunner 5-2 (2 KO)$45 Serhiy Dzinziruk UD Demetrius Andrade UD Selcuk Aydin KO Lucas Martin Matthysse KO Daniel Geale UD
Lufcrazy 5-2 (2 KO) $10 vera ko7 andrade ud aydin ud matthyse ko6 geale sd
WelshDevilRob 4-3 (3 KO) $55
BigBone 4-3 (3 KO) 2009 Champion $25
Drew101 3-0 (3 KO) $55
Honor 3-0 (3 KO) $25 Aydin TKO 9 Geale TKO 10
larsker 3-0 (2 KO)$45
Jordan 3-1 (2 KO) $45
PimpC 3-4 (2 KO)$25
MyName 2-0 (2 KO) $55
AdrenalineSurge 2-1 (2 KO) $50
Badlok 2-1 (1 KO) $45
Boxed Ears 1-0 (1 KO) $25
boxer1982 1-0 (0 KO) $45
LOW BLOW COMBOS 1-1 (1 KO) $25
punchbug 1-1 (1 KO) $25
bronx 1-1 (0 KO) $45
huki 1-2 (1 KO) Dzinziruk UD Andrade UD Soto Karass UD Matthysse KO 6 Geale UD
BadBot 1-3 (1 KO) $0 Vera MD Aydin UD Matthysse T/KO Geale UD
Bogotazo 0-1 $25
SUPER TROJAN 0-2 $25

[DemolitionDan]

Whoo boy. That was an impressive performance. That was just...wow. Nobody does that to Salido, completely dominating him, and toying him like that, dropping him 4 times. Just an impressive, impressive performance. Right now, Garcia is clearly the front runner for Fighter of the Year. This performance over Salido carries a lot of weight.

[marianass]

nah, i'm not happy, Garcia took the easy route (legal and fair but it was not a brave display from him), when he started to feel the heat, he said "I'm out of here", he didn't even try to fight one more round


GARCIA that's not how you win the respect of mexican fans

[BeastsideBoxing]

I think I might be "La vaca del dinnero" or something like that.
I think I won all my bets.

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by DemolitionDan

Whoo boy. That was an impressive performance. That was just...wow. Nobody does that to Salido, completely dominating him, and toying him like that, dropping him 4 times. Just an impressive, impressive performance. Right now, Garcia is clearly the front runner for Fighter of the Year. This performance over Salido carries a lot of weight.

Who you think he should fight next for a good chance of actually get the Fighter of the Year in the end ?

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by marianass

nah, i'm not happy, Garcia took the easy route (legal and fair but it was not a brave display from him), when he started to feel the heat, he said "I'm out of here", he didn't even try to fight one more round


GARCIA that's not how you win the respect of mexican fans

I don't think it's easy to get punched in the face with a broken nose. Plus Salido was landing only few punches and the margin Garcia was leading on points was huge.

[PinoyProdigy]

I updated the everyone's money in terms of the bets, Kirk. I didn't do the featured fight money though.

[DemolitionDan]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

Who you think he should fight next for a good chance of actually get the Fighter of the Year in the end ?

At the moment, he doesn't have to do much, but I think if he and Gamboa could actually get together and Garcia were to win (or dominate) then he'd be the runner away winner. But, knowing boxing I wouldn't count on seeing Garcia-Gamboa.

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by PinoyProdigy

I updated the everyone's money in terms of the bets, Kirk. I didn't do the featured fight money though.

Thanks mate.

[PinoyProdigy]

Originally Posted by PinoyProdigy

I updated the everyone's money in terms of the bets, Kirk. I didn't do the featured fight money though.

Nevermind Kirk, I added everyone's purses from the featured fight. Everyone's money should be on point.

[PinoyProdigy]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

Thanks mate.

No Prob Beast. You currently are the most riches in the league, with $80. And BadBot, well he's bankrupt.

[marianass]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

I don't think it's easy to get punched in the face with a broken nose. Plus Salido was landing only few punches and the margin Garcia was leading on points was huge.

Exactly because is not easy is why he should at least had tried to fight one more round


his boxing skills are top notch, but I don't know yet if he has the cojones

[kirk]

Just my opinions on the fights....

Garcia vs Salido

Are we all just going to pretend that Salido wasnt starting to get to Garcia? How HBO was glossing over the win as if Salido wasnt clearly starting to warm up and impose himself on Garcia the last two rounds there was revolting, though expected.

That fight was young, and it was clear that Salido was old and cold in the first few rounds, and what I feared yet expected, Garcia put down Salido often. However, Salido was beginning to find his form there, and was taking Garcias punch better, and was quite clearly starting to take it to the next gear, and it was a gear that Im not sure Garcia stands up to down the stretch.

If anyone thinks this fight proved anything, and that Garcia vs Salido is somehow settled, they are mistaken. Salido was always going to get knocked down against Garcia, that was a given to most people who saw this matchup clearly imo. But it was about how Garcia was going to stand up to Salido once the vet started to get going. Well.... thats not settled at all. All we got was the first half of the fight without any questions being answered. Imagine Cotto vs Margarito 1 being stopped after 7 rounds due to a headbutt, and the win getting looked at as a great dominant win for Cotto. The real story of that fight wouldnt have been told then right? That is how I feel about this fight, I dont think the true story was told. I already knew Salido was going to get dropped often from Garcia, what I didnt know is if Salido had what it took still to kick it into gear, (which he did, somewhat) or that Garcia could withstand it (which we didnt really get to see, but it was looking like tides were turning)

He was starting to get going, and imo, Garcia was not liking it one bit. I think Salido robbed himself of a realistic chance of winning by being careless with his head like that, but if I was Garcia, I would not be satisfied with this win, and a rematch would be made. Shame on Max for implying there is no need for one, completely looking over the fact that Salido was starting to turn the tides.

Maybe Im seeing this through rose tainted glasses, but I really feel Salido was coming on. Now, that doesnt mean he was on his way to a W (KO), but it means I want to see the natural ending to the fight.

Any younger, and Salido would best Garcia

Take Salido from 4 years ago and he would have thrashed Garcia all around the ring, imo. Salido of today isnt the fighter he once was, and even this version started to put it on Garcia by the 7th. Now, its not exactly fair as Garcia is still green, but my point is I think Salido is a level above Garcia, its just that the old, worn out version of Salido might not be. Although even then, I think thats still yet to be seen.

Props to Garcia

He entered his biggest fight with his usual poise. He did what he was supposed to do through most of the early fight, and for the most part he looked good. The fight went almost exactly how I saw it going except for the first (I didnt think Salido would get dropped till around the 3rd or so, then it would be often) and the last two (I didnt think Salido would have that kind of success at this stage)

As for Garcia, I see big gaps in his game though and I hope he improves as a champion, and given his corner, and his intelligence, Im sure he will.

Fans should want a rematch

Salido won his championship the hard way, off a young prime establishment fighter in his backyard. Nobody gave it to him, he wasnt guided to it, he was 'the opponent' at one point and took it. Tonight he took on another prime young killer, and while he was old and cold early on, the fight was heating up and Salido was starting to come on and make it a dog fight. I dont see how any fan doesnt want to see how the next couple of rounds of that fight play out.

Again.... as boxing fans, I dont see how anyone can see how the fight was going, and not want to see how the next few rounds go.

Not only that, but it will be good experience for Garcia, and theres a big chance he actually wins the rematch with a solid ending in a manner he can be excited about.

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GGG vs Rosado

* I have to now admit, GGG isnt quite near as good as many are making him out to be. Is he good? Hell ya hes good.... but hes not on a whole different level to any other top tier fighter in their weightclasses. He didnt do anything tonight that Chavez Jr or Martinez wouldnt have done, yet he gets twice the praise. I like GGG, I think hes good and I am rooting for him, but I have to call it like I see it and I dont think hes this boxing God hes been annointed.

Fights against Martinez, and Chavez, would be great for the division and fights I think most fans would love to see made. GGG vs Pirog or Chavez, winner takes on Martinez.

Anyways, at this point, I really dont see how anyone rates GGG that much higher as a fighter then Pirog, Martinez, or even Chavez (not in terms of skill but in terms of effectiveness at beating their opponent, even if that effectiveness is being bigger and stronger like Jr is)

Again, I havent seen GGG do anything I wouldnt expect Pirog, Martinez, or Chavez to do. In fact, Rosado stood up to some flush power shots of GGG's that Im not so sure he does with Martinez Im not even sure I would favor GGG over any of those guys to be honest, based on a few things I see



GGG is good for boxing

I love GGG fights. They have an air to them that is exciting. And he comes to put on a good show, with a great attitude. Cant wait for his next fight, I hope its against Chavez, Pirog, Macklin, Geale, Sturm or Martinez. Each of those fights would be great.

Did Rosado resemble Fernando Vargas to anyone else?
Watch Rosado against GGG in the first few rounds, and then watch Vargas against Hoya the first few rounds. The stance, the movement, the way they throw their shots, the similarity was striking to me (Rosado obviously did a lot more moving but Im just talking about form here)

Idk... to me I couldnt believe how much he looked like vargas in there in spurts

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