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Old 01-04-2013, 01:33 AM   #1
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Default Why is everyone clamoring for Mayweather vs Martinez?

I ask because everyone acts like there won't be a 14 lb difference come fight night.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:38 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why is everyone clamoring for Mayweather vs Martinez?

The #1 p4p fighter whos last fight was at 154, and the #3p4p fighter who would fight him there.

Not that hard to see why people want it, regardless of the size difference.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:40 AM   #3
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Closer to 20 lbs.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:45 AM   #4
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Mayweather going up and winning the middleweight title would put him up there with Robinson and Leonard as Welter Champs to capture a Middleweight Title

Tito and Oscar in the last decade failed to do this, this would be a historic achievement

plus it would make things in the Pac vs Floyd world interesting, if Floyd won he would get closer to Manny's titles in weight classes though he will never catch that figure and also win at a weight Manny's never fought at

also Martinez is one of a small list of guys who i and most think can beat Floyd at this very moment, he is fast and he is athletic and he can punch and is also very clever and experienced

i mean what else is an obvious threat, making Ward come down 8 pounds and Floyd up 6 to meet at middleweight
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:54 AM   #5
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The #1 p4p fighter whos last fight was at 154, and the #3p4p fighter who would fight him there.

Not that hard to see why people want it, regardless of the size difference.
I think Sergio would stage manage the weight cutting to perfection and rehydrate extremely well by fight night. Just a hunch really, but he strikes me as a guy who knows his body to a tee and how to preserve himself. He's so non-chalant about this recent knee operation that it's kind of eyebrow raising.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:59 AM   #6
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I don't think if either man won it would help them. If Martinez won people would say 'Oh, Floyd came up too far, and he's way out of his prime' and if Floyd got the W it'd be 'Martinez was drained, he's too old'. Usually how it goes.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:10 AM   #7
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Martinez would be drained as **** at 154 and be going down ala Ward Dawson
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:16 AM   #8
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Default Re: Why is everyone clamoring for Mayweather vs Martinez?

its nothing new

but pretty sure guerrero is floyd's choice, which isn't very terrible at this stage, robert should not be taken too lightly
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:17 AM   #9
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Martinez would be drained as **** at 154 and be going down ala Ward Dawson
What makes you sure? Dawson was never world class at 168, moved up young and has come in at 190+. Sergio moved up cause he got offered money fights, and afaik never came in over 170. I understand he's older, but he's not a big mw
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Default Re: Why is everyone clamoring for Mayweather vs Martinez?

i was just tripping because serg weighed 166 come fight night for the FIRST williams fight.
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Mayweather going up and winning the middleweight title would put him up there with Robinson and Leonard as Welter Champs to capture a Middleweight Title

Tito and Oscar in the last decade failed to do this, this would be a historic achievement

plus it would make things in the Pac vs Floyd world interesting, if Floyd won he would get closer to Manny's titles in weight classes though he will never catch that figure and also win at a weight Manny's never fought at

also Martinez is one of a small list of guys who i and most think can beat Floyd at this very moment, he is fast and he is athletic and he can punch and is also very clever and experienced

i mean what else is an obvious threat, making Ward come down 8 pounds and Floyd up 6 to meet at middleweight
I agree Martinez is in a group of 1 that COULD beat Mayweather.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:29 AM   #12
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Mayweather weighed 150 entering the ring against Ortiz, who weighed 164. I bet Sergio would be 170 at least.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:38 AM   #13
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The #1 p4p fighter whos last fight was at 154, and the #3p4p fighter who would fight him there.

Not that hard to see why people want it, regardless of the size difference.
Exactly. You can't blame Mayweather for not taking a bout like this though.

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Martinez would be drained as **** at 154 and be going down ala Ward Dawson
Not sure you know. He carries the weight well up at Middleweight, but you can see if he had to, he could probably make 154lbs one more time without too much damage.

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i was just tripping because serg weighed 166 come fight night for the FIRST williams fight.
That was in 2009 though to be fair.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:42 AM   #14
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Default Re: Why is everyone clamoring for Mayweather vs Martinez?

We all agree that Martinez is bigger than Mayweather and Pacquiao, but since all 3 once held the WBC LMW belt and Maravilla can make the division limit, calling for either of these fights were nothing unusual - just look how much size and weight Pavlik and Chavez MJr had on him.

Mayweather-Martinez was always the fight to make because Money-Pac would've been a mismatch, but it will never happen as Floyd is set to face Guerrero, Alvarez and retirement while Sergio looks to finish with Murray, MJr. and a farewell fight (possibly Ward).
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:46 AM   #15
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I ask because everyone acts like there won't be a 14 lb difference come fight night.
People would like to see Mayweather lose.
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