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Old 01-07-2013, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default Where do you see boxing in 30 years time?

We've all seen the general decline since the 80's and 90's, (the 90's looking back now feels like a golden age, especially early on and it was probabily the start of the decline).

So where do you fellas see the sport in the next 30 years? Will it continue in this trajectory and become more and more of a niche. Will it rise again? how will it's profile in the general publics conciousness look?

Also, in what areas do you see a decline or improvement? If the profile declines even more, will that mean less participants, and therefore less quality of fighters. Will there even be any GREAT trainers left or any fighters with HOF/ATG potential? Today as we stand there are VERY few active fighters with that type of potential. How will the skillset and styles change?

We know that things can change very quickly, for better or for worse. I mean all it takes is for boxing to return regularly on terestrial television with big fights. I'm a big believer in, if enough good fighters are mainstream, the rest takes care of itself. With the recent return of the sport to 'network' television in the US and the subsequent good ratings, hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later.

For me the main concern is the decline in quality.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #2
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Possibly illegal in America; particularly as we learn more about concussions. Still huge in Mexico, solid in Asia, with a general decline in Eastern Europe as ut gets further away from the fall of communism and more in tune with the rest of the western world.

Still a fringe sport with a dedicated fan base that *****es about how much better it was a few years ago.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #3
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Niche sport, die hard fans who follow everything and about three major stars who are capable of attracting the Casual.

Still no dominant American Heavyweight, though their Olympic team will do better.

Probably overtaken by Mixed Martial Arts.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:41 PM   #4
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Possibly illegal in America; particularly as we learn more about concussions. Still huge in Mexico, solid in Asia, with a general decline in Eastern Europe as ut gets further away from the fall of communism and more in tune with the rest of the western world.

Still a fringe sport with a dedicated fan base that *****es about how much better it was a few years ago.
That's a bit melodramatic, mate. Don't you think? I can't see boxing EVER being illegal, at least not in the next 100 years.

And why would it be illegal in American before anywhere else? That's the last place i'd be saying.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:43 PM   #5
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We'll begin to witness the rise of Super Humans. Fights will be limited to 10 rounds for titles fight, 8 for non-title bouts. The sport will become much more brutal and bloody. Boxing will be judged robotically which will score the rounds electronically based on stats. Heredia will be the emperor of planet earth.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:46 PM   #6
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That's a bit melodramatic, mate. Don't you think? I can't see boxing EVER being illegal, at least not in the next 100 years.

And why would it be illegal in American before anywhere else? That's the last place i'd be saying.
We are turning into a country of extreme softies. We are also the country most concerned with concussions as they are a huge issue in the NFL, our most popular sport by far.

So, increasingly soft nanny state taking a much larger control of our health care system deems boxing to be detriment to mental health and there you go.

It's not like boxing has a big sanctioning body to pay lobbyists and MMA is much safer for your brain.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:46 PM   #7
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In 30 years time, boxing will be a 100% clean sport dominated by european fighters with americans whinging that the standard has dropped and all their best middleweights are in baseball and ice hockey.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:53 PM   #8
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We'll begin to witness the rise of Super Humans. Fights will be limited to 10 rounds for titles fight, 8 for non-title bouts. The sport will become much more brutal and bloody. Boxing will be judged robotically which will score the rounds electronically based on stats. Heredia will be the emperor of planet earth.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:08 PM   #9
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It will succeed as an niche sport with an increasing focus on the internet (which boxing should embrace, yesterday). The countries of fights and fighters will become less important. Might be a bit like MMA a few years ago, with internet diehards of all nationalities slobbering over Sakuraba, Fedor and W. Silva, regardless of where they fought.

MMA will be much bigger in the US, particularly as great athletes will have come up with a lifetime of training. Also, non-poor people will allow their kids to compete in MMA because the concussion/head trauma problems will be shown to be minimal when compared to football or boxing.

Boxing will continue to be buoyed by an extensive, world wide amateur system. Nobody doubts the quality of athlete in Olympic swimming or track even those aren't mainstream sports. Same thing here. Though very few middle class people enter the sport, this is offset by the fact that a smaller guy can become a star. And there will still be plenty of poor people.

Boxing has a lot of qualities inherent to it that no other sport has and that will continue to draw people in. Those people will become die hards. Corruption and lack of visibility will keep it on the fringes of the mainstream at best. At worst, it becomes something like rodeo or monster truck racing, but with the added quality brought by the amateur/Olympic base. You might see the occasional cross over star, ****ogous to Tony Hawk or Michael Phelps, but that will just depend on such a person coming along. There won't be designated spots in the mainstream consciousness for the 2-3 biggest boxers.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:09 PM   #10
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Niche sport, die hard fans who follow everything and about three major stars who are capable of attracting the Casual.

Still no dominant American Heavyweight, though their Olympic team will do better.

Probably overtaken by Mixed Martial Arts.
What if it comes back on 'regular' tv and most of the fighters are household names. Do you think it'd still be a niche sport.

Also, from a technical point of view, do you think things will be a lot different?
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:29 PM   #11
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I should add, boxing has one really big thing going for it. Watching and rewatching good fights is a pleasure, even if you are not some ultra-diehard. Many people are happy to watch a fight for the first time, even knowing who won. None of the mainstream sports has this quality. As we become used to DVR and Netflix, boxing is more suited to the way we like to watch stuff than, say, baseball or soccer is.

If they pull their heads out and make fights easily and legally available online after TV is done with them, that would do wonders for building the fighters and the sport, giving them an advantage in the future.

They should be buying ads trying to get people to watch the past fights by guys they want to build up. "Donaire, sensational knockout!!" should be a promoted video on youtube, by top rank. If they continue to force people into back channels, it will continue to be only die hards who see the product.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:07 PM   #12
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I think boxing is just as popular now as it was in the 80's and 90's. If it wasn't then who were the 2.15 million people who bought De la Hoya vs Mayweather, or May vs Mosely? I think PPV numbers in general are climbing higher and higher because more people than ever before want to see the top fighters perform.

Reasons people say boxing is now "dying"

1. Crooked decisions- yeah just like Holy vs Lewis, whitaker vs chavez, oscar vs tito etc. As long as boxing is judged by humans, there will be bad decisions.

2. Not on network tv anymore- This is true, but it doesn't seem to have restricted the fan base. More people are buying and interested in ppv than ever before.

3. Lack of interest by the general public- I think this has been steady since the 60's or 70's. You always have a core of recognizable guys to the general public, and the rest are known by die hards until they become super famous or retire quietly. I don't think Joe Blow on the street kept track of or gave a **** when David Tua, Chris Byrd, Fernando Vargas, Gerald Mclellan, Nigel Benn (Americans), and so on were fighting. Only when they were fighting someone like Lewis, Dlh, Roy, or Tyson.

4. Taken over by MMA- I see surprisingly little crossover between the fans. 90% of the people that I know who love MMA, never did like boxing. So you can't really say MMA "stole" those fans away from boxing. Most of the hardcore boxing fans I know, don't care for MMA. So vice-versa. It's like saying football stole all the baseball fans. Sure, they are both played with a ball, but they are entirely different sports and appeal to different types of people.

5. Top fights not getting made- Just like Lewis vs Bowe, Oscar vs Tito 2, Roy vs Hopkins 2, Tito vs Mosely, Roy vs DM. This has always happened.

In conclusion, I feel the problems people think are killing boxing have always existed. People always see the past in rose colored glasses. All through the 90's people *****ed about the heavyweight scene. How the belts were always split up, Lewis didn't fight enough and ducked Byrd, Tyson was gonna get the sport banned with his antics, Don King was ****ing everyone over, all the heavyweights do is hug each other in the ring.

Your question is what will boxing be like in 30 years? Well my prediction is people will be *****ing about the sport and saying it was nothing like the golden age of the turn of the century. You only had 1 real heavyweight champ in Wlad and he was knocking people out left and right. Pac, floyd, and marquez were real fighters and actually exciting to watch, unlike the guys they have in 2043. People were actually interested in the sport back then, you could talk to the guy at the water cooler about Shane Mosely he actually knew who you were talking about. Not like today, were nobody follows the sport cause they are too busying having *** with their robot maids in their flying cars (probably).
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:09 PM   #13
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I can see all contact sports being phased out it will be against human rights and health and safety.
But not within 30 years a bit longer than that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:20 PM   #14
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-Surgically implanted steel into fighter's hands is the new loaded gloves

-Capetillo's son opens a steel plant, becoming a ty****
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:32 PM   #15
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as mexico becomes a more prosperous nation, its population will grow bigger, taller and stronger. mexico will dominate the heavyweight division in thirty years time. imagine a young marquez as a natural middleweight. there'd be no stopping the man. it's already begun in mma. look for mexicans to become a big force in the heavier divisions in the near future.
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