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Old 01-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #31
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None that I can think of. Considering the porous nature of testing in boxing, especially at that time, it is amazing that it happened.
Well only one org had deemed it illegal and it wasn't even banned until years later by actual doping agencies. Both guys just weren't paying attention is the best bet.
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Well I'm sure he would have failed before 2001 if that was the case. The thing is, his opponent, Richard Hall failed as well. Has their ever been another case where both fighters test positive, post fight?

When do you think regular drug testing in american boxing began?

Do you believe the man in your avatar was clean whilst fighting a juiced to the eyeballs shane mosley?

Do you believe the man in your avatar has strong morals on PED use as a promoter or do you think he is happy to have failed tests covered up?
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:08 PM   #33
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Well only one org had deemed it illegal and it wasn't even banned until years later by actual doping agencies. Both guys just weren't paying attention is the best bet.

This guy just swallows up the lines fed to the press through Roys attourney

OPEN YOUR EYES TURBOTIME
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:10 PM   #34
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When do you think regular drug testing in american boxing began?

Do you believe the man in your avatar was clean whilst fighting a juiced to the eyeballs shane mosley?

Do you believe the man in your avatar has strong morals on PED use as a promoter or do you think he is happy to have failed tests covered up?
Oscar is a clean fighter
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:12 PM   #35
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This guy just swallows up the lines fed to the press through Roys attourney

OPEN YOUR EYES TURBOTIME
I actually never heard what Roy's attorney said, it's just common sense
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:14 PM   #36
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Oscar is a clean fighter
Yeah just like Shane, Shane never failed a drugs test either, well not one that would have been made public.

Lance Armstrong is also a clean cyclist

How do you feel about Oscar morals on PED use as a promoter?
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:17 PM   #37
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Yeah just like Shane, Shane never failed a drugs test either, well not one that would have been made public.

Lance Armstrong is also a clean cyclist

How do you feel about Oscar morals on PED use as a promoter?
Oscar was never associated with BALCO though, except he should have two NCs on his record because of his fights with Shane
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I actually never heard what Roy's attorney said, it's just common sense



You need to do some reading on what the only legitimate sources of the failed test have to day in Jacob Hall (the indianna commisioner) and the IBF president and quit reading the bullshit that got fed to the press by Roys camp, thats if you can take your fanboy tinted glasses long enough to process the words
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Oscar was never associated with BALCO though, except he should have two NCs on his record because of his fights with Shane
He's certainly associated with golden boy promotions
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Everybody worth a shit was on the juice. RJJ was just more talented than the rest of them.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:24 PM   #41
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Everybody worth a shit was on the juice. RJJ was just more talented than the rest of them.

comedy gold, thank you Doyle xxx for bringing such entertainment to my monday night
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You need to do some reading on what the only legitimate sources of the failed test have to day in Jacob Hall (the indianna commisioner) and the IBF president and quit reading the bullshit that got fed to the press by Roys camp, thats if you can take your fanboy tinted glasses long enough to process the words
So give Roy a NC for the Hall fight for all I care
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:27 PM   #43
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every top fighter is on the juice.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM   #44
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The Jones defenders should be ashamed of themselves. He was caught red handed on the juice with a ridiculously higher testosterone level. Then his legal team offer the typical 'he didn't know what he was taking' three weeks later.

I wonder if these same posters who defend Jones would be just as willing to believe Pacquiao if he failed a drug test and then claimed several weeks later, via his legal team, that it had all been a mistake.

Idiots

Jones was busted at a time where fighters were rarely tested and there was no real protocol to address a failed test. Him and his opponent were juiced up, got sloppy and wasn't expected to get busted for it. No amount of desperate fanboyism is going to change that.
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Roy Jones Jr. and Richard Hall both tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione after Jones defeated Hall to retain his undisputed world light heavyweight championship in Indianapolis in 2000. Jones insisted his test was the result of ingesting the supplement Ripped Fuel.

again, andro was available over-the-counter during this time and it's been reported over and over again that this is what both hall and jones tested positive for. i've seen so many stories made up about this on this site. my all-time favorite is headbanger and a couple others saying that jones was busted by a drug testing pilot program in 2001. the problem is that the jones-hall fight was in 2000. ****ing hilarious.

you're claiming that there was no real protocol for a failed test is crap as well. botha, tyson and whitaker all tested positive before this fight took place and all had wins changed to no contests. again, more made up shit.

for those saying that jones was on the juice during the ruiz fight, he was tested after the fight and came back clean. the same test that busted toney two years later vs ruiz. jones worked with mackie shilstone for that fight. one of the most respected trainers in the business. saying jones was dirty for that fight is saying that shilstone is dirty and i'm sure mackie would have a problem with that.

here are the facts:
-did jones test positive for anabolic steroids after the hall fight? yes

-what "anabolic" substance did he test positive for? it was reported by a number of sites that it was andro.

-was andro available over-the-counter during this time? yes, it was available and was also in supplements until 2004.

the main thing that the jones haters miss on this story is that he is not well liked by the boxing media here in the states. if there were more to this story, it would have blown up a long time ago. this issue is basically just dealt with here on these boards where people can post anonymously and claim anything without having to back it up with facts.

another fact is that joe calzaghe admitted to doing an illegal drug in cocaine. so if you were ever being searched by police, would you rather have a legal over-the-counter supplement in your pocket like jones, or would you rather have a bag of coke in your pocket like calzaghe?
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Roy Jones Jr. and Richard Hall both tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione after Jones defeated Hall to retain his undisputed world light heavyweight championship in Indianapolis in 2000. Jones insisted his test was the result of ingesting the supplement Ripped Fuel.

again, andro was available over-the-counter during this time and it's been reported over and over again that this is what both hall and jones tested positive for. i've seen so many stories made up about this on this site. my all-time favorite is headbanger and a couple others saying that jones was busted by a drug testing pilot program in 2001. the problem is that the jones-hall fight was in 2000. ****ing hilarious.

you're claiming that there was no real protocol for a failed test is crap as well. botha, tyson and whitaker all tested positive before this fight took place and all had wins changed to no contests. again, more made up shit.

for those saying that jones was on the juice during the ruiz fight, he was tested after the fight and came back clean. the same test that busted toney two years later vs ruiz. jones worked with mackie shilstone for that fight. one of the most respected trainers in the business. saying jones was dirty for that fight is saying that shilstone is dirty and i'm sure mackie would have a problem with that.

here are the facts:
-did jones test positive for anabolic steroids after the hall fight? yes

-what "anabolic" substance did he test positive for? it was reported by a number of sites that it was andro.

-was andro available over-the-counter during this time? yes, it was available and was also in supplements until 2004.

the main thing that the jones haters miss on this story is that he is not well liked by the boxing media here in the states. if there were more to this story, it would have blown up a long time ago. this issue is basically just dealt with here on these boards where people can post anonymously and claim anything without having to back it up with facts.

another fact is that joe calzaghe admitted to doing an illegal drug in cocaine. so if you were ever being searched by police, would you rather have a legal over-the-counter supplement in your pocket like jones, or would you rather have a bag of coke in your pocket like calzaghe?
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