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Old 01-07-2013, 11:06 PM   #61
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Roy Jones Jr. and Richard Hall both tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione after Jones defeated Hall to retain his undisputed world light heavyweight championship in Indianapolis in 2000. Jones insisted his test was the result of ingesting the supplement Ripped Fuel.

again, andro was available over-the-counter during this time and it's been reported over and over again that this is what both hall and jones tested positive for. i've seen so many stories made up about this on this site. my all-time favorite is headbanger and a couple others saying that jones was busted by a drug testing pilot program in 2001. the problem is that the jones-hall fight was in 2000. ****ing hilarious.

you're claiming that there was no real protocol for a failed test is crap as well. botha, tyson and whitaker all tested positive before this fight took place and all had wins changed to no contests. again, more made up shit.

for those saying that jones was on the juice during the ruiz fight, he was tested after the fight and came back clean. the same test that busted toney two years later vs ruiz. jones worked with mackie shilstone for that fight. one of the most respected trainers in the business. saying jones was dirty for that fight is saying that shilstone is dirty and i'm sure mackie would have a problem with that.

here are the facts:
-did jones test positive for anabolic steroids after the hall fight? yes

-what "anabolic" substance did he test positive for? it was reported by a number of sites that it was andro.

-was andro available over-the-counter during this time? yes, it was available and was also in supplements until 2004.

the main thing that the jones haters miss on this story is that he is not well liked by the boxing media here in the states. if there were more to this story, it would have blown up a long time ago. this issue is basically just dealt with here on these boards where people can post anonymously and claim anything without having to back it up with facts.

another fact is that joe calzaghe admitted to doing an illegal drug in cocaine. so if you were ever being searched by police, would you rather have a legal over-the-counter supplement in your pocket like jones, or would you rather have a bag of coke in your pocket like calzaghe?
One helluva post man. Expect more trolling dribble from the Calzaghe nuthuggers though.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:16 PM   #62
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One helluva post man. Expect more trolling dribble from the Calzaghe nuthuggers though.


You gimp
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:19 PM   #63
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One helluva post man. Expect more trolling dribble from the Calzaghe nuthuggers though.
thanks. this was pretty easy though. i'm just listing all the facts.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:25 PM   #64
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thanks. this was pretty easy though. i'm just listing all the facts.
It's a pretty short list. In fact it's not even a list, it's one thing you've read on the ESPN website. But if that one sentence really makes you feel better about your idol then cool, cling to it.

I will instead view Jones exactly the same as I view all the other athletes who failed a drug test and then come out with some bullshit excuse. But then again I am a raging racist with an intense xenophobia of Americans.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:29 PM   #65
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Well I'm sure he would have failed before 2001 if that was the case. The thing is, his opponent, Richard Hall failed as well. Has their ever been another case where both fighters test positive, post fight?
James Toney and Danny Batchelder.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:31 PM   #66
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So you call the Jones/Hall fight a NC? or do you give Jones the W since it was all even since they were both "cheating"?
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So you call the Jones/Hall fight a NC? or do you give Jones the W since it was all even since they were both "cheating"?
What does it matter?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:35 PM   #68
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Jones is a Glass Jawed Disgrace. His Chin is awful. His career was smoke and mirrors and carefully crafted by fighting handpicked fights and mandatories. He has no Plan B in a fight. None. He avoided the best fighters available to him in EVERY damn weight class he fought in.
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It's a pretty short list. In fact it's not even a list, it's one thing you've read on the ESPN website. But if that one sentence really makes you feel better about your idol then cool, cling to it.

I will instead view Jones exactly the same as I view all the other athletes who failed a drug test and then come out with some bullshit excuse. But then again I am a raging racist with an intense xenophobia of Americans.
again, ignoring other facts that i've listed. btw, a british writer, kieran mulvaney, wrote that story and reported the info. i just want to point that out when other brits try to say it's an american coverup. you laugh but i've seen posts like that before.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:47 PM   #70
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What does it matter?
You said you viewed him the same as others that failed a drug test, HOWEVER Hall was also cheating....so is the fight valid, since both were dirty?
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Shaunster hates steroid abusers from all walks of life. Tryin to tarnish a legendary posters infallible record in exposing the drug cheat of the world and believing harsh punishmen be dealt to all is a fools errand.
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You said you viewed him the same as others that failed a drug test, HOWEVER Hall was also cheating....so is the fight valid, since both were dirty?
I didn't just mean boxers, I meant any athlete in general. They fail a test and then come the excuses.

As for the result, I haven't even given it much thought and am not overly fussed.
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Roy Jones Jr. and Richard Hall both tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione after Jones defeated Hall to retain his undisputed world light heavyweight championship in Indianapolis in 2000. Jones insisted his test was the result of ingesting the supplement Ripped Fuel.

again, andro was available over-the-counter during this time and it's been reported over and over again that this is what both hall and jones tested positive for. i've seen so many stories made up about this on this site. my all-time favorite is headbanger and a couple others saying that jones was busted by a drug testing pilot program in 2001. the problem is that the jones-hall fight was in 2000. ****ing hilarious.

you're claiming that there was no real protocol for a failed test is crap as well. botha, tyson and whitaker all tested positive before this fight took place and all had wins changed to no contests. again, more made up shit.

for those saying that jones was on the juice during the ruiz fight, he was tested after the fight and came back clean. the same test that busted toney two years later vs ruiz. jones worked with mackie shilstone for that fight. one of the most respected trainers in the business. saying jones was dirty for that fight is saying that shilstone is dirty and i'm sure mackie would have a problem with that.

here are the facts:
-did jones test positive for anabolic steroids after the hall fight? yes

-what "anabolic" substance did he test positive for? it was reported by a number of sites that it was andro.

-was andro available over-the-counter during this time? yes, it was available and was also in supplements until 2004.

the main thing that the jones haters miss on this story is that he is not well liked by the boxing media here in the states. if there were more to this story, it would have blown up a long time ago. this issue is basically just dealt with here on these boards where people can post anonymously and claim anything without having to back it up with facts.

another fact is that joe calzaghe admitted to doing an illegal drug in cocaine. so if you were ever being searched by police, would you rather have a legal over-the-counter supplement in your pocket like jones, or would you rather have a bag of coke in your pocket like calzaghe?

Excellent 5 star post These facts are irrefutable !


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Calzaghe got high, so Roy doing steroids is okay?
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