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Old 01-11-2013, 02:38 AM   #31
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Greatest boxer of the past 25 years.

He would school everyone from 135lbs-154lbs today...Including Floyd and Manny.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:49 AM   #32
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Yep. You could probably argue that Pernell Whitaker had a superior offense and defense to a prime Floyd.
You could, though I'm comfortable just leaving it at him being the better fighter overall. Floyd's obviously far more strict to technique and based on fundamentals, less of a risk taker. His athleticism and reflexes allowed him to work more flexibly within his style and give him added dimensions most don't have the benefit of. Pernell was something much more undefined, unorthodox and innovative and was tried against better opposition; I think his reflexes, radar and ability to discombulate an opponent's timing were all better even if he got hit more, but that also goes back to his willingness to assume more risks (in the ring fighting, I mean).
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:09 AM   #33
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Ask Greg Haugen.
Or Azumah Nelson.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:18 AM   #34
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I think Mayweather vs Whitaker is a very hard fight to call. Floyd has a brilliant boxing brain and it would be the type of fight where the decision is argued about for years. An absorbing back and forth game of fistic chess.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:29 AM   #35
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Greatest boxer of the past 25 years.

He would school everyone from 135lbs-154lbs today...Including Floyd and Manny.
I dunno man, boxing has evolved a lot since Whitaker's 'day'. Someone like Rios probably beats the brakes off him. Prime Roy wouldn't be that effective either, fighters are more athletic now.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:45 AM   #36
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Floyd beats Pernell via modern nutrition & strength & conditioning
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:47 AM   #37
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I dunno man, boxing has evolved a lot since Whitaker's 'day'. Someone like Rios probably beats the brakes off him. Prime Roy wouldn't be that effective either, fighters are more athletic now.



Man **** that, Paulie Mallignaggi would box his ears off!
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #38
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Would have schooled the sh*t out of Juan Manuel Marquez thrice in the same fight. That's just how good he was.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:41 AM   #39
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that depends what you are looking at.

His defense was top3 ATG if not #1, other than that he was average in therms
of greatness, probably he would barely make HOF if you subtract the defense
from his assets.
You are one of the least knowledgeable posters on this forum.

In fact, you are a complete idiot.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #40
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He made boxing look easier than anyone I've ever seen. In contrast to another freak, Roy Jones, who just seemed like he was moving at hyper-speed, Whitaker seemed like he was just strolling around at normal, human speed but in a world where everyone else was in slow-motion. He just saw everything.
This is exactly the way i saw it! the guy was a **** artist, the ring was his canvas. You fought him in the ring you entered his world, one could only imagine how great he would have been if wasnt coked out at the end of his career. I have him around the top ten ATG
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:42 PM   #41
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Great fighter. One of the biggest talents ever. Had his own style.

The only problem is his resume. However, many (including me) think he actually defeated JCC.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:46 PM   #42
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He didn't win any of his biggest fights.

Very good in two weight divisions, 135 & 147.

But not one of the 35 greatest pound for pound fighters of all time.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:01 PM   #43
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I dunno man, boxing has evolved a lot since Whitaker's 'day'. Someone like Rios probably beats the brakes off him. Prime Roy wouldn't be that effective either, fighters are more athletic now.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:58 PM   #44
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He didn't win any of his biggest fights.

Very good in two weight divisions, 135 & 147.

But not one of the 35 greatest pound for pound fighters of all time.
I agree slightly I have sweet peaa little higher around top 25 defeated 5 hofers in his career
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:03 PM   #45
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He didn't win any of his biggest fights.

Very good in two weight divisions, 135 & 147.

But not one of the 35 greatest pound for pound fighters of all time.
Exactly.
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