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Old 01-10-2013, 01:32 PM   #46
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Castillo was superior to Freitas in just about every way in terms of skilled pressure fighting (though those fights were at 135 and he had a 10-15 pound weight advantage over Floyd).

Btw, Freitas and Casa wanted nothing to do with Mayweather. He called them out for years before getting bored and moving up.
I was talking about sfw.

Bullshit mate. I've seen Floyd's career set and I don't once recall him calling out freitas nor casa. Not that it matters anyways they'd still be two of his best victories at the weight.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:34 PM   #47
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I was talking about sfw.

Bullshit mate. I've seen Floyd's career set and I don't once recall him calling out freitas nor casa. Not that it matters anyways they'd still be two of his best victories at the weight.
He'd been calling them out in postfight interviews since Manfredy.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:36 PM   #48
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I think Floyd would be just too much for all of them.

I also think the only one who would be in danger of getting stopped would be Morales, and I love the dude.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:36 PM   #49
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He'd been calling them out in postfight interviews since Manfredy.
Post the interviews then coz I don't remember seeing him call them out.

Granted it is about 5 years since I watched his career set but I'm sure I remember it being the other way round - interview asking about them two and Floyd skirting around the issue.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:43 PM   #50
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Anyone claiming "with ease" is discrediting the trio big-time.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:49 PM   #51
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Anyone claiming "with ease" is discrediting the trio big-time.
Why? Floyd is significantly bigger than all of them. How is Barrera going to combat Mayweather's size, speed, and skill? I'm a big fan, but I say he can't. Same goes for both Marquez and Morales.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #52
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Why? Floyd is significantly bigger than all of them. How is Barrera going to combat Mayweather's size, speed, and skill? I'm a big fan, but I say he can't. Same goes for both Marquez and Morales.
Because he's been cornered by lesser fighters. MAB in particular has certain tools that work in his favor which I highlighted in a breakdown a page or two back. I didn't say picking them to lose was a discredit, but I think Floyd gets overrated at 130 just a bit due to his style and dimensions.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:04 PM   #53
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Because he's been cornered by lesser fighters. MAB in particular has certain tools that work in his favor which I highlighted in a breakdown a page or two back. I didn't say picking them to lose was a discredit, but I think Floyd gets overrated at 130 just a bit due to his style and dimensions.
Put it this way, if Barrera was matched with Floyd at 130lbs...I would refuse to watch it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:42 PM   #54
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Put it this way, if Barrera was matched with Floyd at 130lbs...I would refuse to watch it.
I agree a complete mismatch for all three.. at 130 or 135 all three get stopped by floyd
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:55 PM   #55
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Na in 2000-2001 Floyd was waiting for a Naz fight, but MAB ruined that shit. Erik had put a whuppin on Floyd so Floyd wasn't interested instead opting to move up and hit a road block named Jose Luis Castillo. Got over the hump and has made his legacy. But Erik, MAB, and well, Jmm, afraid? Thats a good one. Floyd needs to drink Jmm's peepee to make him braver so he coulda beat Pacman. Even his bff 50 left his ass in disgust.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:58 PM   #56
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Default Re: money against...Barrera, Morales, Marquez at 130...

how would you guys score the knockdown the most technically, by the book way?
End of round bells rings after knockdown

What happened was Barrera knocked down Marquez legitimately. Alright so 1 point off for Marquez for knockdown

Barrera then punches Marquez blatantly on the ground. You decide as referee not to DQ, do you start the count (I realize this can or cannot be a rule after the bell- consider both cases) since the guy on the floor was ok to get up at 10, but now isnt because of an excessive blow (and not count the knockdown) OR do you count, he gets back up and then give the 10 count?

I hope it's not too confusing but a lot of factors for that knockdown especially since the ref didn't DQ Barrera
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:01 PM   #57
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Pure destruction. Its like putting a Broner against a Demarco. Their mexican style although all three are given credit for being sound technicians just dont match up to a Floyd esque fighter. Broner beats those 3 and I dont like Broner. Its just the hit to not get hit formula that will always destroy a get hit to hit type fighter.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:03 PM   #58
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Pure destruction. Its like putting a Broner against a Demarco. Their mexican style although all three are given credit for being sound technicians just dont match up to a Floyd esque fighter. Broner beats those 3 and I dont like Broner. Its just the hit to not get hit formula that will always destroy a get hit to hit type fighter.
Stopped reading here.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:05 PM   #59
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PBF beats all 3 at 130. He had too much speed too much lateral movement hit hard and could fight off his back foot for 15 rounds if need be. He was stylistic terror for all 3 at that weight.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:08 PM   #60
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Put it this way, if Barrera was matched with Floyd at 130lbs...I would refuse to watch it.
You think he'd do worse than this?

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