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Old 01-10-2013, 04:09 PM   #61
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Anyone claiming "with ease" is discrediting the trio big-time.
Anyone saying he would have trouble with any of these 3 at 130 is discrediting PBF big time.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:11 PM   #62
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Pure destruction. Its like putting a Broner against a Demarco. Their mexican style although all three are given credit for being sound technicians just dont match up to a Floyd esque fighter. Broner beats those 3 and I dont like Broner. Its just the hit to not get hit formula that will always destroy a get hit to hit type fighter.


Broner beats all 3? You kidding me? He beats DeMarco and all of a sudden he beats every elite Mexican ever?

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Anyone saying he would have trouble with any of these 3 at 130 is discrediting PBF big time.
When he had trouble and got backed up with Augustus and Chavez? No, that's just using your eyes and a brain.
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Floyd beats all 3 at 130. Not even a debate really. People thinking otherwise got their head in the clouds. Floyd has always been on a different level than all of them. None of these guys would get closer than a 8-4 loss, and that is being VERY generous.

Mayweather is #1 all-time at 130 pounds as well. None of those guys amount to anything at 130 if Mayweather stayed at the weight later into his career.
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Na in 2000-2001 Floyd was waiting for a Naz fight, but MAB ruined that shit. Erik had put a whuppin on Floyd so Floyd wasn't interested instead opting to move up and hit a road block named Jose Luis Castillo. Got over the hump and has made his legacy. But Erik, MAB, and well, Jmm, afraid? Thats a good one. Floyd needs to drink Jmm's peepee to make him braver so he coulda beat Pacman. Even his bff 50 left his ass in disgust.
Sparing doesn't mean shit. PBF got beat by Spadafora in sparring but would you think he would be nervous of facing him to? So what if EM got the better of him in sparring it doesn't mean shit about what would take place in an actual boxing match. PBF beats any version of EM period end of discussion.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:15 PM   #65
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Anyone saying he would have trouble with any of these 3 at 130 is discrediting PBF big time.
Chico got owned by MAB. I can see Floyd getting past MAB, but not so sure Erik. EM and MAB were in a league of their own don't think Floyd would do to them what he did to Chico. MAB could easily do to Floyd what PDL did with Broner.
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You think he'd do worse than this?

BORKED
One of my favorite PBF fights. PBF toyed with Jesus Chavez he hit Chavez with so many clean counters and uppercuts that I thought he was going to kill Chavez. Just shows you what ineffective aggression does against PBF.
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One of my favorite PBF fights. PBF toyed with Jesus Chavez he hit Chavez with so many clean counters and uppercuts that I thought he was going to kill Chavez. Just shows you what ineffective aggression does against PBF.
He certainly did not toy with Chavez. He was certainly winning but not without taking an unusually higher amount of shots and getting backed up frequently. Chavez didn't have the defense to accompany his high volume. But not a masterclass at all from Floyd.
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some of the uncle toms on this board make me sick. morales and barrera were men. floyd mayweather is a boy. morales would sodomize mayweather at 130.
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Broner beats all 3? You kidding me? He beats DeMarco and all of a sudden he beats every elite Mexican ever?

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When he had trouble and got backed up with Augustus and Chavez? No, that's just using your eyes and a brain.
PBF played with Chavez what part of that don't you understand? He beat the shit outta him. He didn't need to get on his bike to put the demolition job on him. PBF knew he could land at will and Chavez couldn't hurt him. Any time PBF turned it up Chavez had no answer that's why his corner stopped the fight because they knew he had no chance.
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Only Pactards will say any of these guys beat Mayweather at 130 pounds. It's because these 3 fighters are critical to Pacquiao's legacy so they refuse to believe Mayweather would have handled them.

Mayweather is #1 all-time at 130 pounds. No greater fighter to come from that weight, period.
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Sparing doesn't mean shit. PBF got beat by Spadafora in sparring but would you think he would be nervous of facing him to? So what if EM got the better of him in sparring it doesn't mean shit about what would take place in an actual boxing match. PBF beats any version of EM period end of discussion.
Of course sparring has alot to do with it. PBF had to get a gift decision against Castillo and so he's beating any version of Morales? I don't think so. Spadafora sparred with a fat, outta shape Floyd. Morales beat him fair n square with feints. No its not a surething like a real fight, but don't discount that shit either.
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PBF played with Chavez what part of that don't you understand? He beat the shit outta him. He didn't need to get on his bike to put the demolition job on him. PBF knew he could land at will and Chavez couldn't hurt him. Any time PBF turned it up Chavez had no answer that's why his corner stopped the fight because they knew he had no chance.
Getting hit and pushed around by someone is not toying with them, what part of that don't you understand? He got the better of the exchanges every time with superior accuracy but it was by no means a defensive masterclass. Ate plenty of jabs against the ropes and got hit more than usual to the head and body. Same with Augustus.

Flomos need to stop feeling the need to defend and downplay every damn boxistic criticism of Floyd and make everyone of his fights seem like a wash.
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Chico got owned by MAB. I can see Floyd getting past MAB, but not so sure Erik. EM and MAB were in a league of their own don't think Floyd would do to them what he did to Chico. MAB could easily do to Floyd what PDL did with Broner.
EM couldn't hit Zahir Raheem with radar in there fight. He struggles with slick boxers. Not only that PBF has EM beat in all departments he can't outbox PBF and he can't KO him either how does he win? And with MAB man please stop it. He would end up getting knocked out EM would atleast see the final bell.
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Only Pactards will say any of these guys beat Mayweather at 130 pounds. It's because these 3 fighters are critical to Pacquiao's legacy so they refuse to believe Mayweather would have handled them.

Mayweather is #1 all-time at 130 pounds. No greater fighter to come from that weight, period.
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Of course sparring has alot to do with it. PBF had to get a gift decision against Castillo and so he's beating any version of Morales? I don't think so. Spadafora sparred with a fat, outta shape Floyd. Morales beat him fair n square with feints. No its not a surething like a real fight, but don't discount that shit either.
JLC would have given EM hell. I would actually tip him to beat EM at 135. The guy was huge at that weight and was a devastating body puncher with an iron chin and will. He could also apply educated pressure with the ability to cut the ring.
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