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Old 01-11-2013, 12:41 PM   #46
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Default Re: Who else thinks that Danny Garcia would stop Lucas Matthysse?

Danny Garcia has fought old ass morales and got lucky against khan and people thinks he's special.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:45 PM   #47
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:04 PM   #48
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Danny Garcia has fought old ass morales and got lucky against khan and people thinks he's special.
Lucas is 0-2 against similar level of opposition.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:48 PM   #49
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Default Re: Who else thinks that Danny Garcia would stop Lucas Matthysse?

so Garcia beat a shot to shit-old-past Morrales and T.K.O'd a top 5 glass jaw boxer with 0 defensive skills ...... and based on these achievements he can beat a beast like Matthysse
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #50
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so Garcia beat a shot to shit-old-past Morrales and T.K.O'd a top 5 glass jaw boxer with 0 defensive skills ...... and based on these achievements he can beat a beast like Matthysse
Terrible logic but I'll play along anyway.

The same top 5 glass jaw boxer with 0 defensive skills who obliterated Judah who, yes you got it, beat Matthysse.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:06 PM   #51
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Default Re: Who else thinks that Danny Garcia would stop Lucas Matthysse?

I believe both will get crispy on each other. They have the power to put each other on a coma. We'll see who lands first. Pick em fight. My guess is Garcia ftw.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:58 PM   #52
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Default Re: Who else thinks that Danny Garcia would stop Lucas Matthysse?

Garcia is not a power puncher. Again on esb people bandwagoning an dont know what there talking about
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #53
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Garcia is not a power puncher. Again on esb people bandwagoning an dont know what there talking about
He is developing into one of the best power punchers in the biz IMO.

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:03 PM   #54
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Default Re: Who else thinks that Danny Garcia would stop Lucas Matthysse?

Garcia has poor timing, he was throwing wildly at Khan and got lucky. Khan was schooling him and would have continued to had he not decided to get into a war and lose his head. Also, Morales is old and past it. Tell me somebody of high calibre apart from the 2 mentioned who Garcia has beaten? Lucas would beat his ass hands down.

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:07 PM   #55
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Lucas stops Danny Onion Head Garcia. Paramedics will be reviving Angel, but when they find out he won't stop blabbering and how annoying he is they'll sedate him, put him on DNR, and accidentally push him out a 7th floor window in his wheelchair. On fire. Then it explodes.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:46 PM   #56
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it seems that a lot of people are underrating the boxing skills of lucas, and overrating the boxing ability of garcia.

garcia doesn't really have much more than sitting back and trying to take advantage of someone stepping in with their shots. yes, when he's got someone hurt like in the khan fight, he can come forward and let his shots go, but, he leaves himself wide open to the counter himself. it's not exactly smooth when he does it. other than coming forward after he's got his man hurt, he doesn't really do so. not with any sort of skill anyway. he's not really built to walk guys down. he's a fighter that sets his feet and looks to counter. in all the other positions, he comes off second best. he's good, but he's being massively overrated in the boxing skills department. he won't be at the top for long.

lucas has shown that he's capable of boxing smart when he's needed to. he's not someone who just walks forwards with no thought to what is coming back, as some are suggesting here. he'll know that going forward with no care about the counter would be stupid, as would his team. jeez, give him a little bit more credit than that.

they'll come forward, but it would be done nice and easy. slowly building up to a higher pace later on in the fight when the timing is real sharp and they have got a feel of what danny is bringing.

it wouldn't be straight off the bat from the opening bell, charging forward with abandon. that's ****ing stupid. you're selling him way short.

for the first 4 or 5 rounds he'll probably look to step in with shots, then step out again. look to bust garcia up slowly. look to see if they can get garcia to abandon the tactics of sitting back and countering, get him to come forward a little, then pick him off themselves. if they feel that this is working, they'll stick to it. but if they feel that lucas can push him back because they have his timing down, they will.

lucas is more than just a come forward brawler. and he'll show it if this fight comes off. i can't see a way for garcia to beat lucas. no way.
lucas will win most of the rounds leading up to a knock out around the 9th. and it may come down to the facial damage that garcia will suffer from.
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:02 PM   #57
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I agree, Garcia would beat him
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:33 PM   #58
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I just feel that his timing would cause problems for Matthysse. Lets be honest, Matthysse hasn't been in with a fighter like Garcia. Alexander is a sloppy puncher who lacks power to do damage and Judah, well, he was able to land at will on Matthysse during their fight.

I noticed during the Judah fight that Matthysse gets frustrated and was constantly being warned about using his head on Judah. If Judah can still time and counter Matthysse, then sure as hell Garcia will do it even more efficiently.

Matthysse is supposed to have a good chin, but it hasn't really been tested much because he's been in with guys who are past their best or lack power. You can say the same about Garcia, but the thing is, Garcia is a smart fighter and he can avoid being hit clean due to his ring IQ.

This is only my opinion anyway. I just feel that Garcia would time Matthysse and rock him in the mid rounds if, or when, they fight.
so Garcia is the master of timing people now?

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:33 PM   #59
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no way. If anybody is getting stopped its garcia
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:39 PM   #60
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One thing, however, which could be Lucas' downfall, is his guard when rushing into attack. It's way too low and you don't have to be the most accurate of counterpunchers to catch him coming in. No doubt Danny will have plenty of opportunities to land his body-spinners. Whether they'll have the same effect, though, I doubt.
One advantage though is that he comes in out of a crouch when he wants to stay low out of that guard. I think it might be useful against Garcia to do that since he's usually swinging for the fences at shoulder level. A small dip before launching an overhand right or body attack could see Matthysse's offensive timing and angle trump Garcia's.
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