GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? - Page 7

DREAMCATCHER · 01-15-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ne5ville14

How long will Ali be considered one of the best HW ever ?

LOL Good one.

The crocop that Fedor beat brutalises Anderson Silva.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoshi

Not many would label CropCop as an 'iron clad' #3. But take a look at Nogueira's resume.

Coleman, Filipovic, Herring were all in form and were beaten by him before Fedor got his hands on them.

The following are wins he has that even Fedor doesn't have.

Kharitonov, Barnett, Werdum, Rodriguez.

The man beat every hw available to him bar the GOAT. His resume is stacked, and resume is THE most important factor.

His resume is stacked with wins and losses, do you know what resume means? Stop cherry picking from fighter's careers.

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Originally Posted by DREAMCATCHER

LOL Good one.

The crocop that Fedor beat brutalises Anderson Silva.

What an ignorant thing to say.

concrete sledge · 01-15-2013, 01:57 PM

No. Anderson Silva is first, followed by Fedor with GSP being a distant 3rd.

Anderson Silva has defended his title 10 times and never been defeated in the UFC.

Rob_Floyd · 01-15-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

His resume is stacked with wins and losses, do you know what resume means? Stop cherry picking from fighter's careers.

When judging Ali's career, how much stock do you put into the Holmes, Berbick, or Spinks losses?

I'm just using the most obvious and relatable example here.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

When judging Ali's career, how much stock do you put into the Holmes, Berbick, or Spinks losses?

I'm just using the most obvious and relatable example here.

I put as much stock as I do for every single fight of his career, it's part of the big picture.

Was he on the slide? Yes. Does it show on his record? Yes. Do the fights at the end of one's career account for something? Hell fucking yes.

Now let me ask you, do you know the definition of the word resume? Do you understand the meaning? Because I think about 90% of fight fans don't.

Rob_Floyd · 01-15-2013, 02:13 PM

I understand what you are getting at, but I think that things should be looked at in context. Otherwise we could just discuss fights by looking at records rather than watching them. Which is a thing I suspect a lot of fight fans do.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 02:15 PM

Fighting passed your prime and losing is no free pass. Be a man, and let these fighters be men. They signed the contract, they trained, they stepped in the cage, ring, and accept full responsibility for what happens. Ask any Great and they won't make excuses for what happens after stepping into a fight.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

I understand what you are getting at, but I think that things should be looked at in context. Otherwise we could just discuss fights by looking at records rather than watching them. Which is a thing I suspect a lot of fight fans do.

You know, everyone has an opinion which is great. Which is what message boards are for, which is why I log in everyday. I just think losses on fighter's records are excused and ignored all too often.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by concrete sledge

No. Anderson Silva is first, followed by Fedor with GSP being a distant 3rd.

Anderson Silva has defended his title 10 times and never been defeated in the UFC.

This, it should really be 11 Title Defenses since one of his Challengers came in overweight

stoo has got to be out of his fucking mind to place GSP above Anderson Silva. To in the same breathe claim Anderson Silva is the most talented Mixed Martial Artist ever. 10 Title Defenses to GSP's 7, Hendo, Vitor Belfort belong in the same class as Matt Hughes and BJ Penn. Possibly higher (I rate Hendo #3 All Time), but Anderson Silva has 3 more Title Defenses and jumped weight, making it look easy, finishing LHWs in the opening round.

Like I said, major hangups that man has.

Rob_Floyd · 01-15-2013, 02:41 PM

Out of all of this, so far, I take most exception to Vitor being in the same class as Hughes and Penn.

BobDigi5060 · 01-15-2013, 02:47 PM

That's gravy, but my man has been doing it longer, stronger and with more Title Defenses under his belt.

To go back to the OP, and my own OP, fuck no.

Stoo · 01-15-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

This, it should really be 11 Title Defenses since one of his Challengers came in overweight

stoo has got to be out of his fucking mind to place GSP above Anderson Silva. To in the same breathe claim Anderson Silva is the most talented Mixed Martial Artist ever. 10 Title Defenses to GSP's 7, Hendo, Vitor Belfort belong in the same class as Matt Hughes and BJ Penn. Possibly higher (I rate Hendo #3 All Time), but Anderson Silva has 3 more Title Defenses and jumped weight, making it look easy, finishing LHWs in the opening round.

Like I said, major hangups that man has.

Stoo · 01-15-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Out of all of this, so far, I take most exception to Vitor being in the same class as Hughes and Penn.

Boooom!

concrete sledge · 01-15-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

This, it should really be 11 Title Defenses since one of his Challengers came in overweight

stoo has got to be out of his fucking mind to place GSP above Anderson Silva. To in the same breathe claim Anderson Silva is the most talented Mixed Martial Artist ever. 10 Title Defenses to GSP's 7, Hendo, Vitor Belfort belong in the same class as Matt Hughes and BJ Penn. Possibly higher (I rate Hendo #3 All Time), but Anderson Silva has 3 more Title Defenses and jumped weight, making it look easy, finishing LHWs in the opening round.

Like I said, major hangups that man has.

(PimpThaSystem) · 01-15-2013, 08:03 PM

I think debating who is goat in MMA right now considering is such a waste of time considering how young the sport is. FFS Silva and GSP are still fighting and Fedor JUST retired.

That being said, I can't stand the myth concerning Fedor's "decade of dominance" that gets thrown around. Outside the Cro Cop and Nogueira wins, Fedor's resume isn't that impressive. What would you guys say is his 4th best win?

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concrete sledge Lord of the quislings East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Digging Opie's Grave Posts: 7,821 vCash: 1000	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? No. Anderson Silva is first, followed by Fedor with GSP being a distant 3rd. Anderson Silva has defended his title 10 times and never been defeated in the UFC.
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01-15-2013, 02:13 PM	#96
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,987 vCash: 847	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? I understand what you are getting at, but I think that things should be looked at in context. Otherwise we could just discuss fights by looking at records rather than watching them. Which is a thing I suspect a lot of fight fans do.
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BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 8,957 vCash: 553	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? Fighting passed your prime and losing is no free pass. Be a man, and let these fighters be men. They signed the contract, they trained, they stepped in the cage, ring, and accept full responsibility for what happens. Ask any Great and they won't make excuses for what happens after stepping into a fight.
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Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,987 vCash: 847	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? Out of all of this, so far, I take most exception to Vitor being in the same class as Hughes and Penn.
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01-15-2013, 02:47 PM	#101
BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 8,957 vCash: 553	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? That's gravy, but my man has been doing it longer, stronger and with more Title Defenses under his belt. To go back to the OP, and my own OP, fuck no.
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01-15-2013, 08:03 PM	#105
(PimpThaSystem) Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Holton Street, Dean Street (click clack) Posts: 907 vCash: 1000	Re: GSP: Is he the second greatest MMA fight ever? I think debating who is goat in MMA right now considering is such a waste of time considering how young the sport is. FFS Silva and GSP are still fighting and Fedor JUST retired. That being said, I can't stand the myth concerning Fedor's "decade of dominance" that gets thrown around. Outside the Cro Cop and Nogueira wins, Fedor's resume isn't that impressive. What would you guys say is his 4th best win?
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