Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's

Meow · 01-12-2013, 11:55 AM

If you take the amount of fights that Ward is into his career and his accomplishments compared to where Floyd was after 26 fights?

Personally, I think so. In my mind Ward also has the skills and balls to fight any top guy and make his overall legacy better than Floyd's too.

raichu · 01-12-2013, 12:00 PM

when you move up 5 weight divisions, it means theres going to be boxers so called ducked.

ward being in one division has dominated the division.

Id take going through 5 weight divisions and being number 1 in most of them, over just dominating one division.

bballchump11 · 01-12-2013, 12:00 PM

How about when Floyd was 28?

SouthpawJab · 01-12-2013, 12:07 PM

Even if we use the tiny scope you are, after 26 fights(not to mention Floyd was younger when he turned pro), he's still more impressive.

Floyd
Genaro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Jesus Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Angel Manfredy

Ward
Dawson
Froch
Kessler
Abraham
Bika

Floyd has the better wins and looked better getting them lol...Imagine if he had said after 27 fights? (Floyd fought Castillo in his 27th)

OnePunchKO · 01-12-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Meow

If you take the amount of fights that Ward is into his career and his accomplishments compared to where Floyd was after 26 fights?

Personally, I think so. In my mind Ward also has the skills and balls to fight any top guy and make his overall legacy better than Floyd's too.

He ducked Bute and allowed Froch to take the glory.

Bogotazo · 01-12-2013, 12:09 PM

It doesn't even work within the parameters you've set, it certainly wouldn't had you included their whole careers up to now, with half of Floyd's best wins coming afterward. There's no way you can say Ward's career is more impressive.

OnePunchKO · 01-12-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogotazo

It doesn't even work within the parameters you've set, it certainly wouldn't had you included their whole careers up to now, with half of Floyd's best wins coming afterward. There's no way you can say Ward's career is more impressive.

You could argue that Ward went through a murderer's row of opponents and Floyd hasn't ever.

Jim Bowen · 01-12-2013, 12:26 PM

Mayweather never put me to sleep in his first 26 fights so I'd give it to him.

Bogotazo · 01-12-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnePunchKO

You could argue that Ward went through a murderer's row of opponents and Floyd hasn't ever.

Most groupings of 5 or 6 opponents on Floyd's resume include names superior to the likes of Abraham, Froch, and Kesslar. Whatever you want to define as a "murderer's row" is simply trumped by the quality of opposition Floyd has faced.

richie leon · 01-12-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnePunchKO

You could argue that Ward went through a murderer's row of opponents and Floyd hasn't ever.

Floyd best 2 wins out of his first 26 were Hernandez and Corrales, who were about as highly regarded at the time as Kessler and Froch, if not more highly.
Manfredy, Jesus Chavez and C.Hernandez were also considered damn tough, top contenders at the time, at least as good as Bika, AA and weight-drained Dawson.

I'm a huge fan of both, but you don't really have a case here.

Rexrapper 1 · 01-12-2013, 12:34 PM

I would have to agree if we are talking about 26 fights. Both at the same age, I'm rolling with Floyd though.

richie leon · 01-12-2013, 12:37 PM

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I would have to agree if we are talking about 26 fights. Both at the same age, I'm rolling with Floyd though.

What is greater about Ward's career so far then about Floyd's entire SFW career? How are Ward's first 26 fights more impressive when Floyd's first 26 gained him recognition as arguably the GOAT@130?

Icanteach2005 · 01-12-2013, 12:38 PM

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He ducked Bute and allowed Froch to take the glory.

nahh Ward took on a division kingpin instead...in Dawson...
Bute is and was a fraud... Props Froch for exposing him.. but imagine if was the other way arround... I don't think Froch gets through Dawson and Ward goes on to chopping Bute up...

Between the 2 Floyd is the 5 time Division champ and Ward is still climbing.. if Ward has good runs at LHW and Cruiser then in the end his resume may constitute he was better than Floyd..

OnePunchKO · 01-12-2013, 12:48 PM

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nahh Ward took on a division kingpin instead...in Dawson...
Bute is and was a fraud... Props Froch for exposing him.. but imagine if was the other way arround... I don't think Froch gets through Dawson and Ward goes on to chopping Bute up...

Between the 2 Floyd is the 5 time Division champ and Ward is still climbing.. if Ward has good runs at LHW and Cruiser then in the end his resume may constitute he was better than Floyd..

Team Dawson asked for 170, Team Ward said fuck no.

Then Chad got KO'd during sparring and was a corpse on fight night.

bballchump11 · 01-12-2013, 12:49 PM

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Team Dawson asked for 170, Team Ward said fuck no.

Then Chad got KO'd during sparring and was a corpse on fight night.

Chad is on video offering to come to 168

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Meow Lewis refused the rematch ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 843 vCash: 500	Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's If you take the amount of fights that Ward is into his career and his accomplishments compared to where Floyd was after 26 fights? Personally, I think so. In my mind Ward also has the skills and balls to fight any top guy and make his overall legacy better than Floyd's too.
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raichu Nucking Futs ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,779 vCash: 500	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's when you move up 5 weight divisions, it means theres going to be boxers so called ducked. ward being in one division has dominated the division. Id take going through 5 weight divisions and being number 1 in most of them, over just dominating one division.
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bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: GA Posts: 33,587 vCash: 0	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's How about when Floyd was 28?
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SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! ESB Addict Join Date: May 2011 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,361 vCash: 462	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's Even if we use the tiny scope you are, after 26 fights(not to mention Floyd was younger when he turned pro), he's still more impressive. Floyd Genaro Hernandez Diego Corrales Jesus Chavez Carlos Hernandez Angel Manfredy Ward Dawson Froch Kessler Abraham Bika Floyd has the better wins and looked better getting them lol...Imagine if he had said after 27 fights? (Floyd fought Castillo in his 27th)
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Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,410 vCash: 0	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's It doesn't even work within the parameters you've set, it certainly wouldn't had you included their whole careers up to now, with half of Floyd's best wins coming afterward. There's no way you can say Ward's career is more impressive.
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Jim Bowen MARVELOUS ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,072 vCash: 500	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's Mayweather never put me to sleep in his first 26 fights so I'd give it to him.
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Rexrapper 1 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States Posts: 7,200 vCash: 499	Re: Is Andre Ward's career more impressive than Floyd's I would have to agree if we are talking about 26 fights. Both at the same age, I'm rolling with Floyd though.
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