How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs?

BattlingIyan · 01-14-2013, 11:11 PM

Same day weigh-ins. Right now in my high school wrestling season and have to cut 8 or 9 lbs the day before a competition twice a week (school vs school meet on Weds, tournaments on Sats).

Thinking about pulling this off when I go back to boxing after the season. Have had 4 boxing matches so far but never cut weight and am currently 25 lbs over my boxing weight class (165 lbs, now 190 lbs). Thinking of dieting down to 175 lbs then just cutting 10 lbs before every fight. Thing is I'd imagine the fact that I'll be getting my brain rocked would make it 100x more unhealthy.

r1p00pk · 01-14-2013, 11:53 PM

iuno bout you but my weigh ins are day of the fight. I heard of some amatuer fights having the weigh in a the day before.

BattlingIyan · 01-15-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by r1p00pk

iuno bout you but my weigh ins are day of the fight. I heard of some amatuer fights having the weigh in a the day before.

That's what I'm saying. Weigh-ins are same day for both my boxing matches and wrestling meets.

Johnstown · 01-15-2013, 12:52 AM

the pros its allot easier to do because you don't have same day weigh ins, so you can more or less rehydrate. The big difference between wrestling and boxing (at least as far as weight cutting goes) is that in one you get hit in the head. Being dehydrated makes you more susceptible to being knocked out as well as too brain damage.

Jdsm · 01-15-2013, 03:36 AM

A lot more than I would like to see.

Speechless · 01-15-2013, 12:17 PM

I don't know what the magic number is, but in my opinion, if you're dehydrating more than 4 or 5 pounds for amateur boxing, you're risking a bad performance and your health.
Me personally, I never cut more than 3 pounds in water.
I go in with the mentality that I could be the first one fighting, and in most cases, that leaves you with maybe 2 hrs to rehydrate and warm up.

Jdsm · 01-15-2013, 02:34 PM

I brought a boxer in bang on the weight having 450g carbs the day before he boxed. The result? He was actually stronger fighting at a weight he made comfortably. A lot of boxers cut a shit load of weight to 'get the advantage' and it does the opposite. I'm not saying that weight cutting is always detrimental, but it's often not necessary for the average amateurs.

Working with my first MMA fighter atm (just the nutrition side of things), so looking forward to that

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RDJ · 01-15-2013, 04:29 PM

Very prevalent, but not that many pounds in the lower ranks. You could fight so often that it wouldn't be doable. I myself never had to cut more than 1 or 2 pounds, and even that was too much IMO. It's just extra hassle, you're already dealing with an opponent to fight and there you are fighting weight before it even started.

markiepoop · 01-16-2013, 07:42 AM

lol cutting 10lbs for a boxing match on same day weigh ins is not a wise thing to do. cut 4 - 5lbs at most, 10 is too much and exhausts you while makes you weaker.

the pros don't outweigh the cons..

Kolya · 01-16-2013, 11:00 PM

Extremely. I had a friend that was fighting at 125 at a tournament and at that point, with as tall as he was, was basically killing himself to make weight. He fought, stopped the kid, and later that night I saw him working out on the bags. I asked him why and he said he had to take off 5 pounds before the next day's weigh in.

Ricky42791 · 01-17-2013, 12:57 AM

Good thread! I always found weight cutting to be stupid. My theory is I rather be small and well fed than big and drained

01-14-2013, 11:11 PM	#1
BattlingIyan newbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 13 vCash: 500	How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? Same day weigh-ins. Right now in my high school wrestling season and have to cut 8 or 9 lbs the day before a competition twice a week (school vs school meet on Weds, tournaments on Sats). Thinking about pulling this off when I go back to boxing after the season. Have had 4 boxing matches so far but never cut weight and am currently 25 lbs over my boxing weight class (165 lbs, now 190 lbs). Thinking of dieting down to 175 lbs then just cutting 10 lbs before every fight. Thing is I'd imagine the fact that I'll be getting my brain rocked would make it 100x more unhealthy.
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01-14-2013, 11:53 PM	#2
r1p00pk Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,291 vCash: 253	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? iuno bout you but my weigh ins are day of the fight. I heard of some amatuer fights having the weigh in a the day before.
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Johnstown No Longer Nefarious East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 11,823 vCash: 500	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? the pros its allot easier to do because you don't have same day weigh ins, so you can more or less rehydrate. The big difference between wrestling and boxing (at least as far as weight cutting goes) is that in one you get hit in the head. Being dehydrated makes you more susceptible to being knocked out as well as too brain damage.
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Jdsm Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North East, England. Posts: 2,550 vCash: 1432	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? A lot more than I would like to see.
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Speechless Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 550 vCash: 500	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? I don't know what the magic number is, but in my opinion, if you're dehydrating more than 4 or 5 pounds for amateur boxing, you're risking a bad performance and your health. Me personally, I never cut more than 3 pounds in water. I go in with the mentality that I could be the first one fighting, and in most cases, that leaves you with maybe 2 hrs to rehydrate and warm up.
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Jdsm Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North East, England. Posts: 2,550 vCash: 1432	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? I brought a boxer in bang on the weight having 450g carbs the day before he boxed. The result? He was actually stronger fighting at a weight he made comfortably. A lot of boxers cut a shit load of weight to 'get the advantage' and it does the opposite. I'm not saying that weight cutting is always detrimental, but it's often not necessary for the average amateurs. Working with my first MMA fighter atm (just the nutrition side of things), so looking forward to that .
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01-15-2013, 04:29 PM	#8
RDJ Gent And Scholar East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I'm not your buddy, pal. Posts: 32,578 vCash: 202	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? Very prevalent, but not that many pounds in the lower ranks. You could fight so often that it wouldn't be doable. I myself never had to cut more than 1 or 2 pounds, and even that was too much IMO. It's just extra hassle, you're already dealing with an opponent to fight and there you are fighting weight before it even started.
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01-16-2013, 07:42 AM	#9
markiepoop Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 192 vCash: 650	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? lol cutting 10lbs for a boxing match on same day weigh ins is not a wise thing to do. cut 4 - 5lbs at most, 10 is too much and exhausts you while makes you weaker. the pros don't outweigh the cons..
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Kolya P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 15,150 vCash: 1000	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? Extremely. I had a friend that was fighting at 125 at a tournament and at that point, with as tall as he was, was basically killing himself to make weight. He fought, stopped the kid, and later that night I saw him working out on the bags. I asked him why and he said he had to take off 5 pounds before the next day's weigh in.
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01-17-2013, 12:57 AM	#11
Ricky42791 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 863 vCash: 585	Re: How prevalent is weight cutting in the amateurs? Good thread! I always found weight cutting to be stupid. My theory is I rather be small and well fed than big and drained
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