boxing

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum


View Poll Results: Who would win?
Wladimir Klitschko 15 33.33%
Vitali Klitschko 30 66.67%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-24-2012, 04:26 PM   #1
Shake
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,809
vCash: 75
Default Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

I've been wanting to do this thread at the classic forum. Now that Vitali has retired, we can discuss this at length.

Prime for prime, which brother would prevail?

Vitali fights primarily going backwards. He would do best going forward here and take advantage of his superior chin. Would he be able to when challenged by his younger brothers offensive artillery?

Wladimir has the faster hands, the better technique and the stronger punch. However, he relies on clinches and range for defense, which is problematic here. Would he be able to outmuscle his older brother and find a safe haven when the heat turns up?

What say you, Classic?
Shake is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #2
Webbiano
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: England
Posts: 3,088
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Vitali would KO Wladimir. In this fight Wlad isn't going to be able to bully, hold or orchestrate the pace of the fight, too the extent that he is used to, as Vitali is slightly bigger and IMO stronger. It could be likely for Wlad to be up on the scorecards as I feel the jab and big straight right may be able to keep Vitali at bay for the first few rounds, but I think Vitali gets him out of there before the 7th and it's quite possible he does it earlier.
Webbiano is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 06:30 PM   #3
Flea Man
มวยสากล
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: @ferociousflea
Posts: 40,737
vCash: 75
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Wlad would knock him out with the left hook.
Flea Man is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Old 09-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #4
PhillyPhan69
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salisbury, MD
Posts: 3,881
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Vitali is a notch below skill wise...Wlad 8-4/7-5
PhillyPhan69 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #5
Nightcrawler
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada!!!!
Posts: 2,215
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webbiano View Post
Vitali would KO Wladimir. In this fight Wlad isn't going to be able to bully, hold or orchestrate the pace of the fight, too the extent that he is used to, as Vitali is slightly bigger and IMO stronger. It could be likely for Wlad to be up on the scorecards as I feel the jab and big straight right may be able to keep Vitali at bay for the first few rounds, but I think Vitali gets him out of there before the 7th and it's quite possible he does it earlier.
i just don't see vitali walking through wlad's punches. vitali, with his defense, would get nailed by that right hand and he would just walk into that ramrod jab. vitali's got a great chin but he takes flush shots from wlad, he'll do the same thing everything does: get ****ing hurt.

vitali will have to show caution at that point and i see wlad dominating that fight at a distance with the jab. vitali could rock him and hurt him by just walking him down but that vitali stopped existing with the johnson and sanders (rip) fights

this vitali doesn't have the mobility to corner wlad without taking massive damage and getting held imo
Nightcrawler is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:15 PM   #6
Flea Man
มวยสากล
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: @ferociousflea
Posts: 40,737
vCash: 75
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Nightcrawler it's prime for prime I think.
Flea Man is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:43 PM   #7
Shake
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,809
vCash: 75
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Definitely meant as prime for prime.
Shake is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:59 PM   #8
Nightcrawler
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada!!!!
Posts: 2,215
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shake View Post
Definitely meant as prime for prime.
ah my mistake, gonna rethink this one
Nightcrawler is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 08:05 PM   #9
Nightcrawler
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada!!!!
Posts: 2,215
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

with some thought, i think it's still the same result. i just don't see vitali's early aggression being as effective against opponent his own size, with the grip and movement of wlad. after a few scary moments early on, wlad begins to take around by the mid-way of the fight. vitali keeps trying to make it a war but a patient, calm and focused wlad sticks with his gameplan and uses his right hand just enough to get vitali back
Nightcrawler is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 12:15 AM   #10
cuchulain
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Muirthemne
Posts: 11,699
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shake View Post
I've been wanting to do this thread at the classic forum. Now that Vitali has retired, we can discuss this at length.

Prime for prime, which brother would prevail?

Vitali fights primarily going backwards. He would do best going forward here and take advantage of his superior chin. Would he be able to when challenged by his younger brothers offensive artillery?

Wladimir has the faster hands, the better technique and the stronger punch. However, he relies on clinches and range for defense, which is problematic here. Would he be able to outmuscle his older brother and find a safe haven when the heat turns up?

What say you, Classic?


I think you might be premature.
cuchulain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 12:17 AM   #11
cuchulain
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Muirthemne
Posts: 11,699
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flea Man View Post
Wlad would knock him out with the left hook.
No.

Vitali takes this one.

Every time.


Wlad is the better boxer. More talent. Better movement. More skill. Harder punch. Everything.



But Vitali has two insurmountable advantages.

And we all know what they are.
cuchulain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 12:21 AM   #12
Hookie
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chambersburg, PA
Posts: 2,797
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Wladimir is better in some ways but Vitali is the much more durable man. That advantage should never be minimalized... especially in the HW division. Vitali by KO. He's taller, bigger, stronger, hits at hard and has better defense. He has decent speed, footwork, and stamina as well.
Hookie is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 01:38 AM   #13
SuzieQ49
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 16,100
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hookie View Post
Wladimir is better in some ways but Vitali is the much more durable man. That advantage should never be minimalized... especially in the HW division. Vitali by KO. He's taller, bigger, stronger, hits at hard and has better defense. He has decent speed, footwork, and stamina as well.

SuzieQ49 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 07:47 AM   #14
Nightcrawler
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada!!!!
Posts: 2,215
vCash: 500
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

just rewatched round 1 of vitali vs sanders....in his prime, vitali was rocked HARD by the two best punchers he faced. additionally, his strategy of leaning straight back would not serve him terribly well against wlad's right hand
Nightcrawler is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 03:01 AM   #15
Shake
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,809
vCash: 75
Default Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko, 12 rounds.

Wladimir did not do too well against the bigger punchers he fought. Besides, I would argue it was Lennox Lewis overall class that allowed him to win the match. Also, because it was stopped on cuts, the win is not as decisive as it would have been with a wide UD or TKO, though a loss it is.

Wladimir struggled much moreso with punchers in Sanders and Sam Peter. He also has a track record of limiting the volatility of matches with his jab and grab.

I would argue that Vitali, with his 87% stoppage record, would force the issue to a stoppage either way. That two big men who can reach one another (a rare occurence for both) would find one another enough so it comes down to who gets who first.

I believe the winner would be Vitali, due to his chin and overall mentality when a match becomes intense.
Shake is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2015