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Old 01-16-2013, 05:20 AM   #16
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Americans claiming a gold medal means nothing.... Bet you fools weren't saying that when Ward, De La Hoya and Whitaker won their gold medals. American amateur boxing is in a hole and consequently so are their pro fighters. It's the same sport no matter how much you'd like to deny it.
Nah, they also got into the scene with so much hype (like Rigo has) as they came into the pros. But they've proven their worth since then. You couldn't have possibly imagine De La Hoya to be fighting Chavez and Whitaker in his 10th pro fight. Niether does Whitaker to Chavez and Nelson nor Ward does to Kessler and even Calzaghe early in their careers.

They took their respective opponents step-by-step not because of their HYPE from the amateurs that skyrocketed them immediately against an elite fighter.

Rigo got with the same topic as Donaire because of so much HYPE he got from his amateur background not because he stepped-up on his level in the pros that made him much worthy for a Donaire clash
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:45 AM   #17
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Don't mind Rigondeaux at all. It's his retard fans that say Donaire is ducking him when he's done absolutely **** ALL to deserve a fight with Donaire that I don't like.
He's an undefeated world champion
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:36 AM   #18
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Nah, they also got into the scene with so much hype (like Rigo has) as they came into the pros. But they've proven their worth since then. You couldn't have possibly imagine De La Hoya to be fighting Chavez and Whitaker in his 10th pro fight. Niether does Whitaker to Chavez and Nelson nor Ward does to Kessler and even Calzaghe early in their careers.

They took their respective opponents step-by-step not because of their HYPE from the amateurs that skyrocketed them immediately against an elite fighter.

Rigo got with the same topic as Donaire because of so much HYPE he got from his amateur background not because he stepped-up on his level in the pros that made him much worthy for a Donaire clash
Fair point but I think Rigo has a bit more hype than those guys based on being a double gold medallist and his obvious ability. Not that those three guys didn't look good coming straight out of the olympics but Rigo arguably looks a lot more seasoned than those guys at the same stage (due to his long amateur career and his physical maturity), Rigo stepped up comp quickly and he has a title so I don't think it's all just hype. Rigondeaux is a masterful boxer with a title, he's as deserving as anyone.
Rigondeaux's technical and athletic ability is plain to see, Nonito has talked about him enough, why not fight him?
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:15 AM   #19
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Fair point but I think Rigo has a bit more hype than those guys based on being a double gold medallist and his obvious ability. Not that those three guys didn't look good coming straight out of the olympics but Rigo arguably looks a lot more seasoned than those guys at the same stage (due to his long amateur career and his physical maturity), Rigo stepped up comp quickly and he has a title so I don't think it's all just hype. Rigondeaux is a masterful boxer with a title, he's as deserving as anyone.
Rigondeaux's technical and athletic ability is plain to see, Nonito has talked about him enough, why not fight him?
Man..this is a masterful comment..my respect to you..
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:47 AM   #20
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He deserves a shot but Mares deserves it more.
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i don't really care who donaire fights next, as long as it's rigo or mares.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:21 AM   #22
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It a good fight I don't care if rigo deserve it or not, who else besides mares you want donaire to fight @ 122
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:39 PM   #23
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He won the belt of Rico Ramos who is an absolute joke. He's lost this weekend to a bum and struggled to be the bum before him.

He's not ranked number 1, Mares is to anybody with any boxing knowledge at all.
This forum would be a better place if the mods banned all the idiots that call professional boxers "bums".

How about you do the mods a favor and delete your account.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:44 PM   #24
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Fair point but I think Rigo has a bit more hype than those guys based on being a double gold medallist and his obvious ability. Not that those three guys didn't look good coming straight out of the olympics but Rigo arguably looks a lot more seasoned than those guys at the same stage (due to his long amateur career and his physical maturity), Rigo stepped up comp quickly and he has a title so I don't think it's all just hype. Rigondeaux is a masterful boxer with a title, he's as deserving as anyone.
Rigondeaux's technical and athletic ability is plain to see, Nonito has talked about him enough, why not fight him?
Dude, I won't hold Rigo back for fighting Donaire. If both makes it happen then bring it on. But I just want to make it clear as the examples shown above that when we bring up the fact on whether Rigo deserves a Donaire shot already, I should say he's hasn't yet. I know that guy's a talented fighter and could possibly be a threat. But saying he's deserving is a different story. He hasn't done quite enough yet to be on Donaire's level. I'm not saying Rigo needs to have more than 20 fights to have Donaire fight. What he's done early in his pro career(sorry amateurs doesn't mean much for me but only a mere build-up of hype and display of skillset but it has different records from pros) was great but not as great as to be on the level of an elite fighter someone as Donaire's. I'm not also saying Rigo needs to be as great as Donaire to have a shot on him. All I'm saying is Rigo NEEDS TO STEP-UP ON HIS GAME w/c he hasn't done quite enough. He keeps on calling out Donaire, but what else did he do? Did he step up on his game? Who was he fighting? Kennedy and Marroquin? Do you think it's a bright idea to bring on Donaire with those types of opponents he's facing?

This is my take before we consider that he properly deserves, let him fight bigger names. Names that are very well known in the scene of boxing. I've already mentioned some of them in previous threads. It doesn't need to be a very hard opponent as long as it's a markable name. Maybe 1 or 2 of them would be good enough then we can talk again about this. But for now, it's just easy to dismiss Rigo from the topic.
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