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View Poll Results: Who rates higher for you?
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. 66 43.71%
Julio Cesar Chavez, Sr. 85 56.29%
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:28 AM   #136
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, really... Floyd can't even match Morales greatness and now JCC Sr the GOAT in Mexican boxing.. This shit gets more annoying everytime. But at least the poll made a good example on what I mean.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:18 AM   #137
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I think its fairly close & they both belong in a similar bracket in terms of ATG rating.

JCC fought the better opposition, Floyd (arguably) has the more eye-catching performances & has been more successful over a wider range of weight divisions.

Both were highly skiled, Floyd has the greater athletic gifts but JCC hit harder & has the better chin of the 2.

Right now I think JCC edges it but in a few years time my opinion could be the opposite. Good thread.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:22 AM   #138
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Mayweather fought Cotto @ 154 (only his second time at this weight)
Mayweather was also past his best..But hey, he won the fight!
Yeah because Cotto is just as skilled as Pernell Whitaker....oh wait, im talking to a Pacquiao fanboy....Nevermind, you couldn't tell the diffrence.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:28 AM   #139
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Sorry Whitaker doesnt school Mayweather. If you believe that you don't know shit about boxing. Is favor Whotaker no way does e school Mayweather


I never said Taylor schooled Chavez, i said he was on his way to winning before a questionable stoppage


And again Floyd was injured and beat Castillo comfortably the 2nd time


Again Floyd was INJURED and beat Castillo comfortably the 2nd time


"Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now."

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Maybe not school him, but he would beat him, no doubt about it.

You can bring up the injury and the rematch all you want, bottom line is Castillo gave him problems, and the rematch wasn't exactly a schooling like some Flomos would like to have you believe. Castillo still gave him problems, although Floyd won more clear this time around.

Reason i brought Castillo up is because you brought up Taylor, saying how much problems he gave Julio and how much inferior to Floyd he is ect, ect....Well my friend, same applies to Castillo. Gave Floyd problems and is far more inferior to Julio.

and by the way, Taylor would give Floyd all sorts of hell, you better believe that.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:38 AM   #140
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Jr looking high as ****.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:41 AM   #141
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Jr looking high as ****.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:43 AM   #142
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I think its fairly close & they both belong in a similar bracket in terms of ATG rating.

JCC fought the better opposition, Floyd (arguably) has the more eye-catching performances & has been more successful over a wider range of weight divisions.

Both were highly skiled, Floyd has the greater athletic gifts but JCC hit harder & has the better chin of the 2.

Right now I think JCC edges it but in a few years time my opinion could be the opposite. Good thread.
How do you figure Chavez had the better chin?

Floyd never quit in a fight...
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How do you figure Chavez had the better chin?

Floyd never quit in a fight...
Julio never lost his urge or went on vacation when it came to fighting his ATG rival...


..and what exactly does quitting have to do with chin?
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I heard Jmm was starting his own peepee drinks. Its called red toro.
Heh... Well, he won't be taking any of JCC's customers.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:13 AM   #145
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People compare the names on the resume...
Who had more title defenses & against mandatory opponents overall?
(Real question)
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People compare the names on the resume...
Who had more title defenses & against mandatory opponents overall?
(Real question)
Not just that...Which of those names were actually at their best at the time they fought them?
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Julio never lost his urge or went on vacation when it came to fighting his ATG rival...


..and what exactly does quitting have to do with chin?
Floyd has no ATG rival...

If you mean Plankman...

He walked away from a 5050 split and a 14 day cut-off in 09...

Why would a clean athlete need a cutoff....?

The media would have roasted Floyd if he killed the fight over DRUG TESTING...

He's already called a coward on ESPN...he'd get shit-hammered for needing more than 14 days to "recover" from testing..

Barry Bonds would lose his dubious role as poster boy for streroids to Floyd "Juice" Mayweather.......and you KNOW it......

Mayweather gets no love from the press....Manny does...
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Floyd has no ATG rival...

If you mean Plankman...

He walked away from a 5050 split and a 14 day cut-off in 09...

Why would a clean athlete need a cutoff....?

The media would have roasted Floyd if he killed the fight over DRUG TESTING...

He's already called a coward on ESPN...he'd get shit-hammered for needing more than 14 days to "recover" from testing..

Barry Bonds would lose his dubious role as poster boy for streroids to Floyd "Juice" Mayweather.......and you KNOW it......

Mayweather gets no love from the press....Manny does...

But according to Flomos, Pacquiao is just some 1 dimensional midget brawler thats tailor made for Floyd.

Seems Floyd's groupies have more confidence than their hero.
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Not just that...Which of those names were actually at their best at the time they fought them?
If we made a "Who wins" lets say a 91-92 Chavez Vs.

*McGirt
*Simon Brown
*Maurice Blocker
*Meldrick Taylor
*Crisanto Espana

^Who were the WW champions at the time of Julio's last elite year. (IMO)
If ****s with me that Don King milked Julio's name towards the end.

When he had Simon Brown & Buddy McGirt fights that could have been epic.
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Seems they were trying to march to 100-0 after a certain point. Up through '92 he'd already beaten Mario Martinez, Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Juan LaPorte, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Roger Mayweather (again), Sammy Fuentes, Meldrick Taylor, John Duplessis, Angel Hernandez and Hector Camacho, as well as Terrence Alli and Greg Haugen in '93. All rated champs and/or contenders from 130-140.
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