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View Poll Results: Who rates higher for you?
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. 66 43.71%
Julio Cesar Chavez, Sr. 85 56.29%
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:18 AM   #196
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I responded to that.. Dunno if you agreed, disagreed, whatever.
Agreed. As to why I said face value. If you pick through the stages they were in their careers Chavez should be slightly ahead but its no landslide.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #197
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Agreed. As to why I said face value. If you pick through the stages they were in their careers Chavez should be slightly ahead but its no landslide.
Chavez should not be higher...

Floyd won TITLES from 130 all the way to 154 without quitting....
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:39 AM   #198
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How much credit does Norris deserve for the Leonard win??
Rats summed it up perfectly. Giving Oscar credit for busting up Chavez is about the same with Norris beating Leonard.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:08 AM   #199
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JCC's style all wrong for floyd, his sparring partner castillo already beat him once you know that guy ppl hate when brought up(shit look at how close 2nd fight scorecards were you don't think judges knew they made a huge mistake the first fight)& ppl got a legitimate case don't just do fan talk like floyd fans.Legacy wise & better fighter.Flomos won't admit no ones ever better then their highly praised idol/god they got his d*ck too far up their throat/anus.This is also coming from a former floyd supporter who still respect his skill,proudly say I was never no dickriding flomo though like 95% of his down syndrome 2faced fan base.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:47 AM   #200
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Floyd is 17 years, try again, only took 16 months off.

^Consecutive... NO Retirements.

READ for once dumbass.

You're gonna have to take Floyds own word here, the man was retired.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:43 AM   #201
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Actually true, good point Jim.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:33 AM   #202
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^Consecutive... NO Retirements.

READ for once dumbass.

You're gonna have to take Floyds own word here, the man was retired.
I said he took a year off, you God damn dipshit.

Anyways, Floyd's longevity > Chavez's. 36 and still fighting at an elite level. Although Floyd hasn't fought as many bouts as Chavez, Floyd constantly fights top of the line opponents. Something Chavez did not do.

When Chavez was 36-37, he was already completely shot and got torn apart by Oscar.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:38 AM   #203
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I have been defending Floyd the whole time, crushing everyone in the process. No one has been able to refute anything I said.

Chavez never had a ATG defining win, lost to Oscar, lost to Pernell.

Going 87-0 against low tier quality opposition means nothing. Floyd can crush Jerry Cooper 87 times in a day and it'll probably have the same depth as Chavez's first 87 opponents.

Maybe with the exception of Haugen (He's actually pretty bad), Camacho, Taylor x2, Ramirez (Not an elite fighter), Rog (Mid quality)

And they refute with

"Taylor > Everyone Floyd faced" which is completely and utterly false

The desperation of Chavez fans.

And Floyd would completely crush Chavez AT any weight. Especially 130/135. Good lord. Chavez would die in there
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Are you retarded? Floyd had his hands full with the slow, plodding Castillo. Most people think he lost the first fight. What makes you think he's going to crush Chavez ?
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:39 AM   #204
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Are you retarded? Floyd had his hands full with the slow, plodding Castillo. Most people think he lost the first fight. What makes you think he's going to crush Chavez ?
I can do that too

Chavez got the shit beat out of him by Pernell, what makes you think he can beat Floyd?

Floyd can beat Pernell at 147

Floyd's style is all wrong for Pea's and Chavez.

Floyd is the greatest at 130 for a reason, he could crush anyone at that weight EASILY.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:40 AM   #205
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I can do that too

Chavez got the shit beat out of him by Pernell, what makes you think he can beat Floyd?

Floyd can beat Pernell at 147

Floyd's style is all wrong for Pea's and Chavez.
lol so now we're comparing Whitaker to Castillo? Ya you are retarded.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:42 AM   #206
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lol so now we're comparing Whitaker to Castillo? Ya you are retarded.
You're just mad cuz you're getting crushed. It's ok. . Btw Floyd > Chavez Sr in h2h/Legacy.

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Crushed all his opponents easily

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Floyd constantly fights top of the line opponents. Something Chavez did not do.
Yes, he did.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:01 AM   #208
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JR. Way more dominant, 17 year stretch
3 time lineal champ
8 time world champion
5 different weight classes
Beat more HOF/ATGS

SR Lost to Whitaker/ODLH
Beat CAB drivers for most of his career
Good wins on Taylor though.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:35 AM   #209
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Chavez should not be higher...

Floyd won TITLES from 130 all the way to 154 without quitting....

Chavez beat all the top guys from 130-140lbs, unified and didn't duck anyone at those weights. And he certainly didn't duck his ATG rival of his era. He didn't lose his urge, took a vacation, said he was next only to go back on his statement and call himself a "rich coward".

If you want to use weight jumping as a criteria here, then i guess you're pretty much saying that Filipino midgest your hero didn;t have the balls to face is greater than him.

Winning titles from 112lbs-147lbs >>>>>> 130lbs-154lbs


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Old 01-20-2013, 05:46 AM   #210
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^Consecutive... NO Retirements.

READ for once dumbass.

You're gonna have to take Floyds own word here, the man was retired.

at MayweathersVoraciousCocksucker saying Floyd only took 16 months off...I guess he must have not been around when Floyd took 21 ****ing months off in between '08-'09..you know during the time the Welterweight division was red hot.
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