Has there been a boxer more naturally talented than Earnie Shavers?

[KOTF]

Originally Posted by Uncle Roger

Rakim Oaks

[Sugar Nick]

Shavers? a hard hitter not much else.

A poor man's Foreman's corpse.

[Theron]

His power was all he had no good defense or anything like that, Larry Holmes is a better example he started pretty late and went on to be in atleast the top 3 heavyweights or top 5 depending on the person

[Son of Gaul]

There's really no better current example than Sergio.

[dyna]

What a overhand should do:
[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=sTWylfLdCcc[/url]

What happens when the "biggest hitter evar" does one
[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=_LijnCa33Uw[/url]

No offense to Shavers, but his power is extremely overrated.
Especially if you land a shot with so much leverage behind it and the man isn't KO'd

[TerryESB]

WTF hes not naturally talented. The dude just hit really hard

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by dayuum

His record is amazing for someone who started at the age of 22, just imagine if he started earlier

Easier for Heavyweights, apparently. Everything is about power.

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by TerryESB

WTF hes not naturally talented. The dude just hit really hard

That's not a natural talent?

[TerryESB]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

That's not a natural talent?

And I give him full credit for that being a powerful puncher. What else is Shavers talented at World level though?

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by TerryESB

And I give him full credit for that being a powerful puncher. What else is Shavers talented at World level though?

well... let's say that instead of being able to hit obscenely hard, he was gifted with obscene handspeed. Would that count?

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by dyna

What a overhand should do:
[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=sTWylfLdCcc[/url]

What happens when the "biggest hitter evar" does one
[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=_LijnCa33Uw[/url]

No offense to Shavers, but his power is extremely overrated.
Especially if you land a shot with so much leverage behind it and the man isn't KO'd

what are you talking about? He dropped an ATG like a sack of potatos. Miracle Holmes got up at all.

[TerryESB]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

well... let's say that instead of being able to hit obscenely hard, he was gifted with obscene handspeed. Would that count?

He hit hard thats true, but what else. This thread is absurd. Below is what I was answering.

"Has there been a boxer more naturally talented than Earnie Shavers?


Come on. The TS must be taking the piss.

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by TerryESB

He hit hard thats true, but what else. This thread is absurd. Below is what I was answering.

"Has there been a boxer more naturally talented than Earnie Shavers?


Come on. The TS must be taking the piss.

Yes, there have been fighters more naturally talented, but Shavers natural gifts were damn considerable. Julian Jackson, same way. You can't learn that. You're born with it.

[TerryESB]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

Yes, there have been fighters more naturally talented, but Shavers natural gifts were damn considerable. Julian Jackson, same way. You can't learn that. You're born with it.

Chin: Jerry Qaurry absolutely blasted him out in one round.

[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik[/URL]

Stanima: He practically fell over on his own from punching himself out hitting Tex Cobb's head and got stopped.

[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYdr38bYOM[/URL]

By todays standards he would be a severely undersized Heavyweight.

[bernie4366]

Originally Posted by TerryESB

Chin: Jerry Qaurry absolutely blasted him out in one round.

[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik[/URL]

Stanima: He practically fell over on his own from punching himself out hitting Tex Cobb's head and got stopped.

[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYdr38bYOM[/URL]

By todays standards he would be a severely undersized Heavyweight.

Julian Jackson had no chin either. Malignaggi has no power. Are they useless and untalented too?