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Old 01-17-2013, 04:07 PM   #1
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...and it wasn't joey maxium that made SRR lose, why wasn't a rematch ever made? Better yet a match of SRR vs the next lt heavy champ Archie Moore?
SRR wasn't shot in 1952 and he came back and in the next 6 years won 3 more world titles. Archie Moore had the Lt heavy title 5 or 6 of those years, so why no second try at Lt heavy for the sugarman during that period?
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Because he wasn't stupid.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:12 PM   #3
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I think he realized that he bit off more than he could chew against Maxim.

I do believe it was the heat that caused his loss but I also think Robinson realized that conditions had to be near perfect to give up nearly twenty pounds and win.

Also, Moore was a whole different ballgame from Maxim.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:20 PM   #4
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Because Moore would have knocked him the **** out.
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Very likely
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #6
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If Maxium had been the one stopped and SRR had won that fight, we would have never heard a peep about how hot it was that night.
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I think there would've been a footnote about the referee having to be substituted.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:18 AM   #8
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Conditioning's a part of the sport. So is pacing yourself. Robinson might beat Maxium 99/100 times. However this time he didn't and, It's likely one or both of these factors played a role in the result. Also coming in at 157 and a half was not the smartest choice either, but I take it as a sing that he had no plans to defend the 175 championship if he won it. Maxium was the better prepared boxer. He deserved the win.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:33 AM   #9
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Maxim, literally, stood in the center of the ring and ate shots from Robinson for 13 rounds. How he was awarded 3 rounds, is beyond me.

Of what I have of that fight, which obviously some rounds are missing (I forget which), but they must be the rounds that Maxim actually throws a punch. Because from what's survived on film -- Maxim didn't do shit.
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If Maxium had been the one stopped and SRR had won that fight, we would have never heard a peep about how hot it was that night.

If Maxim had dominated the fight and was heading to victory without taking any punishent then collapsed due to a heat storke we most certainly wouldve heard about it.

If Robinson wasnt outboxing and outpunching him so easily Maxim wouldve been given more credit.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:42 AM   #11
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I do believe it was the heat that caused his loss but I also think Robinson realized that conditions had to be near perfect to give up nearly twenty pounds and win.
The conditions had to be perfect for Maxim to win.
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Because Moore would have knocked him the **** out.
Robinson had Moore and his wife round to dinner to try and broker a match, but Archie vetoed it because he said Ray wanted all the money.
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If Maxim had dominated the fight and was heading to victory without taking any punishent then collapsed due to a heat storke we most certainly wouldve heard about it.

If Robinson wasnt outboxing and outpunching him so easily Maxim wouldve been given more credit.
Robinson was leading on all cards .
9-3-1, 10-3,7-3-3.

If he stayed on his feet for 2 more rounds he becomes a triple crown winner, but he expended too much energy out boxing the bigger man.

Jack Kearns talked a lot of bullshit about how it was planned for Maxim to come on late,all I can say is he left it a bit late.
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Art Rust Jr always maintained the fix was in in this fight.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:18 AM   #15
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If Maxim had dominated the fight and was heading to victory without taking any punishent then collapsed due to a heat storke we most certainly wouldve heard about it.

If Robinson wasnt outboxing and outpunching him so easily Maxim wouldve been given more credit.
Then we need to go back to the OP question.
It seems that the public and Team Robinson would be chomping at the bit to get maxim into the ring again ASAP.
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