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Old 12-29-2014, 04:35 PM   #1
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I've seen a few fights where the hometown guy got an unfair decision or the referee was obviously biased against a visiting fighter, but there is one fights that stands out above the rest:

Juan Coggi v. Eder Gonzales I. WBA corruption at its finest.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:42 PM   #2
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I've seen a few fights where the hometown guy got an unfair decision or the referee was obviously biased against a visiting fighter, but there is one fights that stands out above the rest:

Juan Coggi v. Eder Gonzales I. WBA corruption at its finest.

Yep. Physically bracing one of the fighters so he doesn't fall down and giving him recovery time when you're the referee is just beyond the beyond. That one takes the cake.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:59 PM   #3
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Escelara-Everett.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:11 PM   #4
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Monzon-Scott, Monzon-Moyer, Benvenuti-Scott, Benvenuti-Baird II, Freddie Little-Sandro Mazzinghi. Those were all pretty ridiculous. Moyer, Scott, and Baird were stopped in all of those fights for no reason at all. Baird at least was losing fairly convincingly but no reason to stop the fight. Little absolutely kicked the living **** out of Mazzinghi and couldnt miss him with a punch. He sliced Mazzinghi up like a pizza with precision punching and then the ref stops the fight and preserves Mazzinghis title with a NC for no reason at all. Everett-Escalara was bad and corrupt. Ive heard tales of some of Zach Clayton's dealings as well. And Harold Valan was either completely corrupt or totally incompetent, Ive heard it was corruption.

Lewis-Holyfield 1 doesnt even register...
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:29 PM   #5
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Yep. Physically bracing one of the fighters so he doesn't fall down and giving him recovery time when you're the referee is just beyond the beyond. That one takes the cake.
Add in the timekeeper on that one. If you're going to watch it again, the timekeeper shortens about 3 rounds enabling Coggi to escape each time.

Also, the first Jose Napoles - Armando Muniz fight for corruption
is a beaut. With Napoles title all but gone in the 12th, Referee Ramon Berumen claimed that Muniz butted Napoles in the 3rd and 5th rounds and due to that infraction (although no points were taken) Napoles was awarded the fight on a technical decision. The ref also allowed Napoles to nail Muniz in (I think) the 9th round with about 11 full-blooded low blows. It was actually comical watching Napoles get close to Muniz and Muniz actually raising his left leg to ward off the low blows. When asked why he didn't return the favor Muniz said, "Because Berumen was waiting for me to retaliate so he could DQ me."
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:59 PM   #6
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Add in the timekeeper on that one. If you're going to watch it again, the timekeeper shortens about 3 rounds enabling Coggi to escape each time.

Also, the first Jose Napoles - Armando Muniz fight for corruption
is a beaut. With Napoles title all but gone in the 12th, Referee Ramon Berumen claimed that Muniz butted Napoles in the 3rd and 5th rounds and due to that infraction (although no points were taken) Napoles was awarded the fight on a technical decision. The ref also allowed Napoles to nail Muniz in (I think) the 9th round with about 11 full-blooded low blows. It was actually comical watching Napoles get close to Muniz and Muniz actually raising his left leg to ward off the low blows. When asked why he didn't return the favor Muniz said, "Because Berumen was waiting for me to retaliate so he could DQ me."
As someone who saw a tape of first bout between Jose Napoles and Armando Muniz, I agree that the officiating in it was incredibly corrupt. It is my understanding that the first bout between Pedro Carrasco and Mando Ramos also had some corrupt officiating.

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Old 12-29-2014, 08:08 PM   #7
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As someone who saw a tape of first bout between Jose Napoles and Armando Muniz, I agree that the officiating in it was incredibly corrupt. It is my understanding that the first bout between Pedro Carrasco and Mando Ramos also had some corrupt officiating.

- Chuck Johnston

Oh yeah, Ramos Carrasco was insane. Ramos was killing Carrasco and the referee was all over Ramos every chance he got. At one point in the 8th Ramos knocks Carrasco down with a left hook-right hand-left hook to the body, all clean, scoring blows. The referee goes over to Carrasco, starts counting but is looking at Ramos and then picks Carrasco up and proceeds to warn Ramos. He then takes his sweet time to whipe Carrascos gloves off and instead of waving on the action he goes over and argues with Ramos to buy Carrasco more time. After the round ends they show it on instant replay and it was clearly all legal. No reason for the refs actions. The round resumed with only a couple seconds to go allowing Carrasco off the hook. In the 10th Ramos drops Carrasco hard with a beautiful counter right and Carrasco is totally out of it on wobbly legs. The referee gives him a count that literally lasts 16 seconds (I timed it) Ramos is all over him and dropped Carrasco again and this time as Ramos starts walking back to his corner the referee ignores that Carrasco is down and starts following Ramos back to his corner pointing and ushering him back, remarkably he then directs Carrasco to a neutral corner and only then starts to count. The entire thing comically lasts 22 seconds, again giving Carrasco ample time to recover. Again there are only a few seconds left and Carrasco literally collapses into the arms of his handlers on the way back to his corner. In the 11th Ramos clocks Carrasco coming in and Carrasco's legs go out from under him, he hugs onto Ramos like he was his long lost love so Ramos sort of dipped his shoulder and shook Carrasco off. Carrasco goes down in a corner and the ref ushers Ramos back Carrascos corner and accuses him of throwing Carrasco down. Its happened 100s and 100s of times but the ref jumped in like Ramos had just bodyslammed him. He warned Ramos and then makes to resume the round but it ends immediately. The 12th starts, the fighters begin to fight and then literally after the first exchange the referee steps in and disqualifies Ramos. The ref is waving his hands wildly and even Carrasco looks at him and holds his hands up like "wtf are you doing?" Carrasco is then paraded around the ring like he is this conquering hero even though he got his ass so thoroughly kicked it was like a boy being taken to the woodshed.
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Benn vs McClellan
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Benn vs McClellan
referee could not speak a word of english which was well weird , and there is no doubt that ref saved ben in round1 !!
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:16 AM   #10
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In Southern California during the 1970s, a tape of the first bout between Jose Napoles and Armando Muniz was shown on television (probably on a Spanish language station). I don't think that the first bout between Pedro Carrasco and Mando Ramos was shown on television in Southern California at the time. But Jackie McCoy, Ramos' manager, made sure that Southern California boxing fans knew about the bout.

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Old 12-30-2014, 02:36 AM   #11
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Sven Ottke-Robin Reid was a disgrace to boxing.
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:42 AM   #12
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I could not really say any in paticular. Seen many bad decisions favour Eddie Hearn fighters in recent years, ****** has had many refs give his fighters bad decisions over the years and there are always a lot in Germany and America.

Since it is the classic I will give a few examples of retired fighters.

1. Benn vs. Eubank 2 - Don King had it written in that both fighters sign with him win or lose I believe as part of the deal getting it televised in America or something like that, Benn clearly won, when they asked Barry Hearn what he felt the decision was after the fight he said a draw, almost like he was trying to justify what he had in my opinion done.

2. Robin Reid vs. Sven Ottke - Clear win for Reid and he was deducted points for hitting Ottke in the face. Stuff like that just isn't on.

3. Sergio Martinez vs. Kermit Cintron - Martinez put him down for the count and just because Cintron complained the ref over turned the stoppage victory, then after he was given time to recover and seemingly lost convincingly on points was given a draw. As they say you need a knock out to get a draw in some places this is an example.
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:45 AM   #13
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referee could not speak a word of english which was well weird , and there is no doubt that ref saved ben in round1 !!
From what I have heard and read McClellan should not have been boxing at that stage of his career anyway as some doctors had mentioned that this problem was there and felt it could happen if he boxed again. Unfortunetly he was allowed to box and this is what happened.

For every Sugar Ray Leonard that's allowed to box Marvin Hagler there is probably something like a one in 5 chance of something like that happening.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:05 AM   #14
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Chris Eubank-Dan Schommer. Eubank was a dead man walking that evening through his weight making routine and this southpaw mystery guy Schommer stood him on his head.
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Arthur Abraham vs Edison Miranda I
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