Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title - Page 4

Juiceboxbiotch · 05-12-2010, 04:42 PM

Great thread! Very informative, had a lot of fun reading this...

Bonecrusher · 06-30-2010, 12:27 AM

This is amazing!! Thanks!!

m8te · 08-16-2010, 01:28 AM

I hope you guys know that this thread is actually a legitimate historical unearthing. good work

Surf-Bat · 08-25-2010, 05:26 AM

Tommy Gibbons technically became the "Colored Light-Heavyweight Champion" when he beat Kid Norfolk, who held that distinction at the time

eslubin · 09-12-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNOOPBEE

DEMPSEY AND KEARNS WANTED THE WILLS FIGHT MORE THAN ANYBODY HOWEVER WILLIAM MULDOON WAS THE COMMISSONER IN NEW YORK AND GOING BACK IN TIME HE HAD BEEN SULLIVANS TRAINER .HE WAS THE ONE WHO PUT A STOP TO THAT FIGHT FROM HAPPENING AS HE DID NOT BELEIVE IN CROSSING THE COLOR LINE .

Thats not exactly true because Muldoon trained and managed black fighters (CC Smith, Billy Hill) against whites and vice versa (Denver Ed Smith vs Jackson, Kilrain vs Godfrey). It wasn't Muldoon's decision, he was pressured from the top. And Wills record speaks for itself, he was great.

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eslubin · 09-12-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-Bat

Tommy Gibbons technically became the "Colored Light-Heavyweight Champion" when he beat Kid Norfolk, who held that distinction at the time

that's cool

Boxed Ears · 10-27-2010, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by eslubin

Thats not exactly true because Muldoon trained and managed black fighters (CC Smith, Billy Hill) against whites and vice versa (Denver Ed Smith vs Jackson, Kilrain vs Godfrey). It wasn't Muldoon's decision, he was pressured from the top. And Wills record speaks for itself, he was great.

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You're alright, man.

Deepanshu · 10-30-2010, 08:16 AM

nah man thats god up there. have some respect.

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willmc83 · 12-03-2010, 06:02 PM

was there many black promoters or managers around at the time and were the "coloured fights" attened by both blacks and whites?

Surf-Bat · 12-29-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by willmc83

was there many black promoters or managers around at the time and were the "coloured fights" attened by both blacks and whites?

Gus Greenlee was the first black manager of a black world champ(John Henry Lewis) that I know of. This would be the early 1930s though.

willmc83 · 01-05-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Surf-Bat

Gus Greenlee was the first black manager of a black world champ(John Henry Lewis) that I know of. This would be the early 1930s though.

thanks

Ringrat · 01-28-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by road_warrior_99

George Godfrey had quite a few DQ's on his record. I noticed he beat Larry Gains once but then lost to him later on a Low Blow DQ. Did Godfrey DQ fights when things were not going his way?

Like a lot of heavyweights, Godfrey could be a bit of a head-case. He didn't always put on his best effort and sometimes didn't train. He liked to fool around too much in camp. He was a bit like Buster Douglas. Like a lot of fighters in those days, if things weren't going his way, he'd find an easier way to lose.

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Senya13 · 05-01-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hhascup

Friday 1st May 1914
New Orleans, Louisiana
Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 10
Langford loses world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

Was a newspaper decision, Langford didn't lose his title claim.

tony mush · 05-01-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie G

I agree. Best documentary that I've seen of Johnson.

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hhascup · 05-31-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Senya13

Was a newspaper decision, Langford didn't lose his title claim.

This was an actual decision according to many including Luckett Davis, the Ring Record Book and others.

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