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Old 01-21-2013, 03:40 PM   #91
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I agree but i know he could beat sanders why he didn't is a mystery
He wouldnt have beat Sanders in a rematch no way, not even the sanders that Vitali beat.
Style wise Sanders was a huge south paw heavyweight with crazy speed and power Wlad would have gotten knocked out again.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:41 PM   #92
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Wow, do you actually believe this non-sense??
Yes.
Did you see the fights ESP to Brewster dude was dominating look at wlads face when he got knocked down it wasn't the look of hurt it was the look of tired as ****
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #93
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He wouldnt have beat Sanders in a rematch no way, not even the sanders that Vitali beat.
Style wise Sanders was a huge south paw heavyweight with crazy speed and power Wlad would have gotten knocked out again.
I guess we'll never know.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #94
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Yes.
Did you see the fights ESP to Brewster dude was dominating look at wlads face when he got knocked down it wasn't the look of hurt it was the look of tired as ****
it was both, he was tired from a mix of Throwing too many shots early and allowing Brewster to get inside and rip hard shots to the rib cage, when he went down he was hurt, he was also tired but I just explained how he got tired, that was part of the plan, this way he couldnt get away from the shots that stopped him...
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:45 PM   #95
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Yes.
Did you see the fights ESP to Brewster dude was dominating look at wlads face when he got knocked down it wasn't the look of hurt it was the look of tired as ****
Then blame Wlad for not properly training...Nobody forced him to punch himself out like that. Nobody forced him to slack on his conditioning...you cant sit back now and try to make excuses for him now...He's a pro athelete, he knows what it takes to get a Victory...Those excuses dont fly and its very sad to see fans actually trying to pass this off a legit excuse.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:45 PM   #96
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One was in 1997 and did you see the fight ?

The other was to lamon Brewster did you see that fight?


Yes there loses on paper that wlad was winning clearly at the time and all of a sudden ran out of gas so **** off hater


Stamina is a part of fighting. But...What happened was Brewster tanked Wlad's damage, landed a few of his own and took Wlad's legs. Pressure, it doesn't matter if you are down on the cards.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:47 PM   #97
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Yes.
Did you see the fights ESP to Brewster dude was dominating look at wlads face when he got knocked down it wasn't the look of hurt it was the look of tired as ****
Whaaaaaaaat?

So that doesn't count as a true loss?

So everyone throughout history who has lost because they're not in good enough shape to last the duration of a fight shouldn't have those losses counted on their record? Are we going to have to rewrite boxing history to differentiate between losses and true losses?

You make it sound like Wlad just collapsed in the middle of the ring for no reason. He ****ed up his strategy - he didn't pace himself and he lost because of it.

What about pressure fighters who pressure their opponent until they become more and more tired and then finish them off? Should these fighters not get 'true wins' because their opponent was fatigued?

What the actual ****.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:48 PM   #98
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it was both, he was tired from a mix of Throwing too many shots early and allowing Brewster to get inside and rip hard shots to the rib cage, when he went down he was hurt, he was also tired but I just explained how he got tired, that was part of the plan, this way he couldnt get away from the shots that stopped him...
I think it was solely on throwing to many damn punches Brewster didn't land much until the very end IMO.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #99
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Whaaaaaaaat?

So that doesn't count as a true loss?

So everyone throughout history who has lost because they're not in good enough shape to last the duration of a fight shouldn't have those losses counted on their record? Are we going to have to rewrite boxing history to differentiate between losses and true losses?

You make it sound like Wlad just collapsed I'm the middle of the ring for no reason. He ****ed up his strategy - he didn't pace himself and he lost because of it.

What about pressure fighters who pressure their opponent until they become more and more tired and then finish them off? Should these fighters not get 'true wins' because their opponent was fatigued?

What the actual ****. These kind of excuses cannot be made by a real boxing fan.

The Ross fight was 16 years ago and from my memory he did throw his self out and he was dominating at the time samething with the Brewster fight.

To prove it was a fluke Brewster really didnt even land a punch in the rematch.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:56 PM   #100
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Well thy doesn't really address anything I raised in my post.

So do you believe that all boxers should have distinct 'losses' and 'true losses'?

Or just Wlad?
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:57 PM   #101
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Well thy doesn't really address anything I raised in my post.

So do you believe that all boxers should have distinct 'losses' and 'true losses'?

Or just Wlad?
Just Wlad ofcourse, **** the rest.



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Old 01-21-2013, 03:59 PM   #102
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Well thy doesn't really address anything I raised in my post.

So do you believe that all boxers should have distinct 'losses' and 'true losses'?

Or just Wlad?
Well, if thats the case...I have Lennox Lewis undefeated...those two losses doesnt really count because he wasnt himself!

You're a hater if you dont agree with me!
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:00 PM   #103
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Default Re: If Vitali or Wlad beats Pulev/Povetkin/Fury, will he rank above Lennox Lewis?

So after 100 posts the consensus is no and some of us are now slightly confused on when a loss is a proper loss
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:00 PM   #104
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Then blame Wlad for not properly training...Nobody forced him to punch himself out like that. Nobody forced him to slack on his conditioning...you cant sit back now and try to make excuses for him now...He's a pro athelete, he knows what it takes to get a Victory...Those excuses dont fly and its very sad to see fans actually trying to pass this off a legit excuse.
Listen I know he lost but it wasn't because of no damn Ross purity skills or lamons it was wlads fault solely.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #105
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Well, if thats the case...I have Lennox Lewis undefeated...those two losses doesnt really count because he wasnt himself!

You're a hater if you dont agree with me!
Lewis was hit on the chin though big difference.
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