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Old 02-10-2008, 04:59 PM   #31
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He's not a racist, he made a comment that could be deemed racist. Quit with the melodrama, it happened months ago.
I do not think such comments deserve to be swept under the carpet. He may not be racist but the remark was bad and although it is only his attempt to generate interst in the fight such avenues should be avoided.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:08 PM   #32
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I don't think he's racist but it really pisses me off when "minorities" get away with making comments that whites would get slaughtered for. Alan Minter got battered for saying exactly the same thing that Hopkins has just said.
You can't really compare to the two situations. Minter's comment came at a time when there were bananas being thrown on football pitches.

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I do not think such comments deserve to be swept under the carpet. He may not be racist but the remark was bad and although it is only his attempt to generate interst in the fight such avenues should be avoided.
So what do you think should have happened to him for making such a remark?
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:12 PM   #33
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I think I CAN compare the two comments, they are exactly the same....
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:17 PM   #34
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I think I CAN compare the two comments, they are exactly the same....
Oh good.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:18 PM   #35
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What if Calzaghe had said no black man was going to beat him? The media would have gone mental and rightly so.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:19 PM   #36
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What if Calzaghe had said no black man was going to beat him? The media would have gone mental and rightly so.
Yup thats been said a lot.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:23 PM   #37
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Yup thats been said a lot.
Probably because its a ****ing good point?
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:24 PM   #38
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You can't really compare to the two situations. Minter's comment came at a time when there were bananas being thrown on football pitches.



So what do you think should have happened to him for making such a remark?
Just because racism is no longer a serious issue in football does not meen it is not a serious issue in society. We have a cultural divide that can make remarks such as the one Hopkins made into powerful tools for further hate.

The booing of the American national anthem by British fans follow Hatton was widely condemmed but can you imagine the atmosphere if the so many thousand fans there had been treated to such a remark by PBF?

Free speach is a fantastic virtue that is often tainted by these remarks.

Instead of it being made into a nothing issue the man should be enlightened to why such remarks should be kept to ones self. If he wants to be portrayed as the bad guy in the build up he should use abit of intelligance and go down a different avenue.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:29 PM   #39
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Probably because its a ****ing good point?
Not just a good point then?

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Just because racism is no longer a serious issue in football does not meen it is not a serious issue in society. We have a cultural divide that can make remarks such as the one Hopkins made into powerful tools for further hate.

The booing of the American national anthem by British fans follow Hatton was widely condemmed but can you imagine the atmosphere if the so many thousand fans there had been treated to such a remark by PBF?

Free speach is a fantastic virtue that is often tainted by these remarks.

Instead of it being made into a nothing issue the man should be enlightened to why such remarks should be kept to ones self. If he wants to be portrayed as the bad guy in the build up he should use abit of intelligance and go down a different avenue.
It was a silly comment but it's the ghetto talking. Where's he from people would be embaressed to lose to a white person. Black people are still treated like second class citizens in America.
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No, it is a ****ing good point. Double standards like that are a real hate of mine, they don't do race relations any favours from either side.
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No, it is a ****ing good point. Double standards like that are a real hate of mine, they don't do race relations any favours from either side.
Chill out. I bet you're some middle class white boy, oblivious to the realities of ghetto life. He's not a racist, he made a racist comment & should have been made to pay some sort of fine or make a donation to charity. He doesn't have a racist agenda & he wasn't insighting racial hatred.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:44 PM   #42
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Chill out. I bet you're some middle class white boy, oblivious to the realities of ghetto life. He's not a racist, he made a racist comment & should have been made to pay some sort of fine or make a donation to charity. He doesn't have a racist agenda & he wasn't insighting racial hatred.
No, I'm a working class white man, do I need to apologise for that? How do the mean streets of Watford make you an authority on "the realities of ghetto life"?

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No, I'm a working class white man, do I need to apologise for that? How do the mean streets of Watford make you an authority on "the realities of ghetto life"?
They don't, however, you may have this rose tinted view on things & believe we live in this wonderful, utopian society where racism is a thing of the past but there is still a barrier & although the guise in which it exists is not as obvious as it onces was it is still very much a reality.
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I don't see how it affects a 43 year old multi-millionaire too badly?
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I don't see how it affects a 43 year old multi-millionaire too badly?
It's still there. Boxing is a sport mainly run by white men but it's finest exponents are mainly black.
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