Wilder = A KO Waiting to Happen....

[Cableaddict]

Originally Posted by Absolutely!

Believe it or not I don't actually want to see Wilder get beaten up by some scrub. I want to see him improve to the point where he can legitimately mix it with the top guys and fulfil whatever potential is there. But you can't fast track someone to a title or hold them back till legitimate threats are no longer part of the picture, and then expect them to magically become great. Greatness is earned, not manufactured.

Golden Boy are shite promoters who are fucking Jonty's career up big time and he needs to leave them ASAP if they don't make big strides in furthering his career by the end of this year. This might sound like a truism but they simply don't have his best intentions at heart.

Well said, both points.

As I've said before, I think GBP has to be willing to throw some money into this, to actually LOSE money on a few fights in order to get Wilder the opposition he needs. Right now, the only way to get a decent fighters to face him is to give those fighters a huge payday, guaranteed. (think of it as a retirement bonus.)

Evidently, they aren't willing to do this.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Well said, both points.

As I've said before, I think GBP has to be willing to throw some money into this, to actually LOSE money on a few fights in order to get Wilder the opposition he needs. Right now, the only way to get a decent fighters to face him is to give those fighters a huge payday, guaranteed. (think of it as a retirement bonus.)

Evidently, they aren't willing to do this.

I don't think so. There are plenty of tough journeymen who'd be more than willing to step in with Wilder for a relative pittance. These guys would take him rounds and give him an arena in which to properly test out his skills. Guys like Dominick Guinn or Sherman Williams. Not massive names, but guaranteed to stick in there longer than four rounds at the least. Who knows, even take him to a points decision!

He needs to be willing to lose his worthless 100% KO ratio in order to improve. Putting him in with no hopers at this stage is becoming detrimental.

[Cableaddict]

Originally Posted by Absolutely!

I don't think so. There are plenty of tough journeymen who'd be more than willing to step in with Wilder for a relative pittance.

Says you. Have you actually offered them the fight for a pittance?

Didn't think so.

Now back to reality .....

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Says you. Have you actually offered them the fight for a pittance?

Didn't think so.

Now back to reality .....

Relative pittance, meaning they aren't going to ask for a ridiculous wage.

Guinn's already stepped in against Boytsov, Pulev and Mansour. I doubt he'd be afraid to mix it up with Wilder.

Tank's been in with Helenius and Holyfield.

I don't see why Wilder couldn't get these guys if he wanted to.

[Zakman]

There is a REASON Wilder is not fighting live bodies, and it has NOTHING to do with decent fighters not wanting to fight him.

It does, however have EVERYTHING to do with Wilder's appalling LACK OF PUNCH RESISTANCE!!!!!

http://www.dominicserna.com/Boxing/P...SRNA6807-M.jpg

[ImElvis666]

Picking a heavyweight fighter to be knocked out at some point in his career doesn't exactly make one Nostradamus.

[LuckyLuke]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Well said, both points.

As I've said before, I think GBP has to be willing to throw some money into this, to actually LOSE money on a few fights in order to get Wilder the opposition he needs. Right now, the only way to get a decent fighters to face him is to give those fighters a huge payday, guaranteed. (think of it as a retirement bonus.)

Evidently, they aren't willing to do this.

Really this makes no sense.
Wilder fights the worst bums of the HW division. There are plenty decent journeyman around for Wilder. There is no excuse for fighting the opponents Wilders fights.
Nobody excepts him to fight top 20 or even top 40 guys. A few decent journey men who can test him would be great but he fights the worst of the worst.

Guinn would be good, Bakhtov would be good those kind of guys. Which are able to really test him and not those bums.

[Cableaddict]

Originally Posted by Absolutely!

Relative pittance, meaning they aren't going to ask for a ridiculous wage.

Guinn's already stepped in against Boytsov, Pulev and Mansour. I doubt he'd be afraid to mix it up with Wilder.

Tank's been in with Helenius and Holyfield.

I don't see why Wilder couldn't get these guys if he wanted to.

Correct, you don't see it.

Not one of those guys is as offensively dangerous as Wilder. Holyfield comes close, but he was both high risk AND high reward. Boytsov is almost as dangerous as Wilder (not quite) but he was a ranked HW, and so again there was an upside to fighting him. Wilder is only high risk. Beating him right now would mean nothing for any ranked opponent.

What part of this don't you understand?

[LuckyLuke]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Says you. Have you actually offered them the fight for a pittance?

Didn't think so.

Now back to reality .....

I think you should go back to reality...
You really think EFERY decent journeyman ducks Wilder? Come on.
Wilders 27/27 is worth shit because he has only bums on his resume.

[Zakman]

Originally Posted by LuckyLuke

Wilders 27/27 is worth shit because he has only bums on his resume.

Yup. And even some of them have had this glass-jawed JOKE on the canvas!!!

[LuckyLuke]

Originally Posted by Zakman

Yup. And even some of them have had this glass-jawed JOKE on the canvas!!!

Let a heavy handed guy like Boytsov,Glazkov,Helenius ect fights the same 27 fights Wilder fought and it will be 27 (27).

[Saintpat]

Originally Posted by Zakman

.,....as soon as he fights a live body.

Wilder is a total fraud who fights nothing but tomato cans because he's packing GLASS in his mandible.

This joke got knocked out in the amateurs with HEADGEAR on (check about 1:57 in)!



Even against the cab drivers and bar patrons he's been padding his record against, his china chin has been exposed. Here he hitting the deck against the formidable "world beater" Harold Sconiers:

http://www.dominicserna.com/Boxing/P...SRNA6807-M.jpga

And here's this FRAUD getting put on queer street by some guy who looks like he trains at the bar doing 12 ounce curls (i.e. lifting the beer and putting it to your mouth). Go about 40 seconds in to see this joke Wilder taste canvas against this fat slob:



Case closed. Wilder has an OBVIOUS glass jaw, his handlers know it, which is why FOUR YEARS into his career, he's still fighting stiffs, and pathetic stiffs at that.

You have posted an average of ONCE EVERY TWO FUCKING HOURS for eight years and never said anything different other than this guy or that guy has a glass jaw.

Amazing.

And it's a pretty stupid game -- you call out everyone and say they can't take a punch and guess what ... sooner or later most everyone gets knocked down or knocked out. It's boxing, it happens.

I guess that makes you a genius ... an unemployed genius or one who posts all day at work, wasting his employer's time, but a genius nonetheless.

We all hope to one day accumulate more than 40,000 posts that say the exact same thing. You give us something to aspire to, and we thank you for it.

[4eyes]

Never been impressed by him...another Michael Grant if you ask me

[Sugar Nick]

Originally Posted by Saintpat

You have posted an average of ONCE EVERY TWO FUCKING HOURS for eight years and never said anything different other than this guy or that guy has a glass jaw.

Amazing.

And it's a pretty stupid game -- you call out everyone and say they can't take a punch and guess what ... sooner or later most everyone gets knocked down or knocked out. It's boxing, it happens.

I guess that makes you a genius ... an unemployed genius or one who posts all day at work, wasting his employer's time, but a genius nonetheless.

We all hope to one day accumulate more than 40,000 posts that say the exact same thing. You give us something to aspire to, and we thank you for it.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Correct, you don't see it.

Not one of those guys is as offensively dangerous as Wilder. Holyfield comes close, but he was both high risk AND high reward. Boytsov is almost as dangerous as Wilder (not quite) but he was a ranked HW, and so again there was an upside to fighting him. Wilder is only high risk. Beating him right now would mean nothing for any ranked opponent.

What part of this don't you understand?

So no one but bums are willing to fight Wilder because he looks so offensively dangerous knocking out other bums? Jeez, what a conundrum. Maybe he should stop knocking them out so fast so he can lure those cowardly journeymen out of hiding. Who knows? Maybe in a few years Price, Fury et al will even give a damn when he calls them out again.