Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? - Page 3

MVC · 01-21-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PityTheFool

Too much MVC,Too much man.

You really must be desperate for some love and attention flower.
At least MVC can troll with humour,albeit a tad misguided.

It's not being misguided, it's simply stating facts. Even though some of the things I say, others may not agree with. W/e.

SweetHome_Bama · 01-21-2013, 09:15 PM

Probably quit because he realized after going down that he couldn't beat Pryor and that he never would.

Thread Stealer · 01-22-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Theron

Arguello is greater than Floyd so is Pryor thats why nobody blames him, how do you know Floyd wont back away hes never been in a fight like Arguello Pryor 1 or 2 we dont know how he will react

Pryor is NOT greater than Mayweather on an all-time ranking list.

He'd give Mayweather a hell of a fight H2H, maybe beat him, but in no way is he greater historically.

MVC · 01-22-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Thread Stealer

Pryor is NOT greater than Mayweather on an all-time ranking list.

He'd give Mayweather a hell of a fight H2H, maybe beat him, but in no way is he greater historically.

So many nuthuggers on this site with no knowledge of ATG rankings. Floyd after Canelo/Guerrero goes up to 20-25. Deal with it, haters.

If he adds Pac to that list, 15?

Theron · 01-22-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MVC

What does THIS have to do with anything I just said.

Are you just saying this out of desperation?

You just gotta give Floyd the benefit of the doubt, he has shown to be resilient, and never gives up.

And Floyd ranks ahead of both in ATG rankings.

So you're saying. It's ok to quit as long as you're known and have been in great fights? That's such a shit mindset man. Like I said before, Arguello should have fought it out. He even said "I wasn't that hurt, I didn't want to risk my life"

It was knowingly his last fight he just didnt have it anymore once he was knocked down that last time, why should he risk his life one fight away from retiring, and i dont know what your talking about when has Floyd ever had to show the kind of heart that Arguello did ?

ross · 01-22-2013, 01:03 AM

Honestly they're all human no matter how great in their primes. Once the fire is gone it's gone. Sometimes it's mental other times it can be physically , doesn't matter because to be on that level everything has to be on point. Arguello certainly didn't lack heart in his prime which is when I base my opinion on any fighter.

Goyourownway · 01-22-2013, 01:35 AM

Tried his best,put up a hell of an effort but ultimately knew that the fight was slipping away from him and thought best to pack it in before taking anymore punishment.After the way Pryor finished him off in their first fight,I don't blame him.

Boxing fans are so obsessed with this notion that only cowards quit.It's a long-running,puerile stigma in this sport that should have died out a very long time ago.It's a dangerous enough sport as it is - you don't play games and gamble with your health in situations like that.The ref can only do so much to protect you.

MAG1965 · 01-22-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MVC

The thing is... If Floyd is knocked out today by a younger/fresher/faster guy, everyone would bash him non stop 24/7 even though Floyd is past his prime/legs somewhat gone, etc. Floyd is 36...

Arguello was only 30 at the time, he had something left. It wasn't like he was completely shot. He even said in the post fight conference "I wasn't that hurt, I didn't want to risk my life." It just makes it seem like he was there for a paycheck.

I don't think we'll ever see Floyd quit like that. Just saying.

Alexis was a warrior who fought everyone he could and took chances. There is a difference which is no insult on Floyd, but Alexis did fight them all. Yeah Floyd is 36 this year, 4 years older than Duran was when he lost to Hearns, yet people try to say Duran was old when he fought Hearns, yet Roberto was the champion of the WBA at the time at 154. But Pryor was just a great fighter, and I don't think Floyd has fought a hungry young champion like a Pryor yet. Arguello came back in 1986 and fought Billy Costello and won by knockout, but Costello was not as good as Pryor.

Zopilote · 01-22-2013, 04:17 AM

MVC, you were able to spell Arguello correctly. I'm impressed.

brnxhands · 01-22-2013, 05:23 AM

Tired, a beaten man, too long a career. Some people wanna see a dude fight until they die to prove they have "heart".

pathmanc1986 · 01-22-2013, 05:43 AM

Why is MVC still allowed on this site?

Boring, predictable, trolling threads.

Just opening up the general forum and seeing his name as the OP on about 10 threads.

(Clicks on address bar, leaves forum)

Derrick_Rose · 01-22-2013, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Hand Slap

MVC I am starting to think you are just against any human being in some deranged way that isn't black. How can you make such accusations about a true warrior. Lets see your idol Floyd take a beating from a young up and comer when he's past prim and see what he does. You're a disgrace.

this

This fucker rides every slick dick in the sport

Waynegrade · 01-22-2013, 09:12 AM

I think he he realized that he gave Pryor everything he had... The punches that put him down in the tenth, hurt him. Not as devastating as in the first fight. But, I think he just knew he had nothing left and no answers for Pryor. Given all the wars Arguello, fought ( and there were many) I think it`s reasonable that het gets a break on this one. Had he gotten up he was going to get sreriously hurt, like the way he got pounded out in the first one...As for recycling comment, totally classless...

Waynegrade · 01-22-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

Alexis was a warrior who fought everyone he could and took chances. There is a difference which is no insult on Floyd, but Alexis did fight them all. Yeah Floyd is 36 this year, 4 years older than Duran was when he lost to Hearns, yet people try to say Duran was old when he fought Hearns, yet Roberto was the champion of the WBA at the time at 154. But Pryor was just a great fighter, and I don't think Floyd has fought a hungry young champion like a Pryor yet. Arguello came back in 1986 and fought Billy Costello and won by knockout, but Costello was not as good as Pryor.

Great post... Arguello was gunning for his 4th belt against a true champ.

Skins · 01-22-2013, 10:21 AM

Alexis got off the floor twice in the 2nd Pryor fight. Got knocked down again by a brutal barrage and knew he was used up and couldn't win so he took the count. No shame in that and it is certainly not quitting.

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SweetHome_Bama The Honorable Judge East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 42,167 vCash: 10918	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Probably quit because he realized after going down that he couldn't beat Pryor and that he never would.
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01-22-2013, 01:03 AM	#36
ross Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 213 vCash: 1000	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Honestly they're all human no matter how great in their primes. Once the fire is gone it's gone. Sometimes it's mental other times it can be physically , doesn't matter because to be on that level everything has to be on point. Arguello certainly didn't lack heart in his prime which is when I base my opinion on any fighter.
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Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Challenging you and pushing your body to it's full limit Posts: 1,117 vCash: 500	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Tried his best,put up a hell of an effort but ultimately knew that the fight was slipping away from him and thought best to pack it in before taking anymore punishment.After the way Pryor finished him off in their first fight,I don't blame him. Boxing fans are so obsessed with this notion that only cowards quit.It's a long-running,puerile stigma in this sport that should have died out a very long time ago.It's a dangerous enough sport as it is - you don't play games and gamble with your health in situations like that.The ref can only do so much to protect you.
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Zopilote Dinamita East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 10,142 vCash: 500	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? MVC, you were able to spell Arguello correctly. I'm impressed.
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brnxhands Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bronx ny Posts: 6,125 vCash: 75	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Tired, a beaten man, too long a career. Some people wanna see a dude fight until they die to prove they have "heart".
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pathmanc1986 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,144 vCash: 1000	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Why is MVC still allowed on this site? Boring, predictable, trolling threads. Just opening up the general forum and seeing his name as the OP on about 10 threads. (Clicks on address bar, leaves forum)
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01-22-2013, 09:12 AM	#43
Waynegrade Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,552 vCash: 1000	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? I think he he realized that he gave Pryor everything he had... The punches that put him down in the tenth, hurt him. Not as devastating as in the first fight. But, I think he just knew he had nothing left and no answers for Pryor. Given all the wars Arguello, fought ( and there were many) I think it`s reasonable that het gets a break on this one. Had he gotten up he was going to get sreriously hurt, like the way he got pounded out in the first one...As for recycling comment, totally classless...
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01-22-2013, 10:21 AM	#45
Skins Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 223 vCash: 500	Re: Why did Arguello quit in the 2nd fight against Pryor? Is it a lack of heart? Alexis got off the floor twice in the 2nd Pryor fight. Got knocked down again by a brutal barrage and knew he was used up and couldn't win so he took the count. No shame in that and it is certainly not quitting.
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