Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die?

sweet_scientist · 06-10-2008, 09:29 AM

We'll never know for sure, obviously, but let's assume he fights the following:

Samuel Serrano 1978
Alexis Arguello 1978
Bobby Chacon 1979
Ruben Castillo 1979
Rafael Limon 1980
Rolando Navarette 1980
Cornelius Boza Edwards 1981

Where does he stand say, by 1982? Would he be great if he took on all those fighters?

Frankly, I favour him over all the fighters mentioned there, with the possible exception of Arguello. I'm not sure how good Everett's jaw was, but if he can take Arguello's punch he's 90% on the way to winning their fight because I struggle to see Arguello winning more rounds.

Thoughts?

Lobotomy · 06-10-2008, 09:48 AM

Well, he certainly toyed with Escalera. (Unfortuantely, the snake Alfredo wore around his neck was apparently one of the judges.) I remember Tyrone "Butterfly" Crawley citing Everett as his inspiration, declaring the belief that he was the best in the world P4P. But footage of him needs to be made readily available for modern boxing fans to have any opportunity to further evaluate him for themselves.

ThinBlack · 03-27-2012, 01:11 PM

Possibly, he definitely had a shot, but most likely, would have to get out of Philly for title shots.

Senor Pepe' · 03-27-2012, 01:24 PM

Absolutely yes,,,,,,,

A wonderful quick-fisted boxer who clearly was one of the top
130 lb. fighters in the world.
Ring Magazine
1974 #3
1975 #1
1976 #2
1977 #1 (At the time of his death)

Flea Man · 03-27-2012, 01:26 PM

I've said for a while I think Alexis should've been grateful he wasn't around. Very tough matchup for Arguello IMO.

lufcrazy · 03-27-2012, 01:36 PM

He beat escalera quite clearly from what i've read.

Although it's hard gaugeing his ability given his lack of big name opponents.

Senor Pepe' · 03-27-2012, 01:56 PM

The WBC Super Featherweight title fight against Alfredo Escalara wasn't even close.

Every ringside observer had Tyronne Everett winning at least 10 rounds.

Associated Press had it 146-139 (11-4-0) in rounds.
United Press had it 146-141 (9-4-2) in rounds.
Philadelphia Daily News had it 146-140 (10-4-1) in rounds.

salsanchezfan · 03-27-2012, 02:09 PM

I scored it 12-3 in favor of Everett. And the rounds weren't close either......it wasn't like you could make any serious case for Escalera. Easily the most disgraceful decision I've ever seen. The fix was in for sure. No one is THAT bad a judge.

Senor Pepe' · 03-27-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

I scored it 12-3 in favor of Everett. And the rounds weren't close either......it wasn't like you could make any serious case for Escalera. Easily the most disgraceful decision I've ever seen. The fix was in for sure. No one is THAT bad a judge.

sasla,,,

The fix was in,,,,,,,,is an understatement,,,,,,,,,,,it was a 'Super Fix'

See, Lou Tress (Boxing Judge from Philadelphia)
A Philadelphia resident,,,,,scored it 145-143 (7-5-3) Alfredo Escalara

Everyone in Philly knew Lou Tress was bought for that fight.
He screwed his own hometown fighter.........

The shocking thing about his scorecard. Lou Tress was regarded
as a 'Homer', always giving the Philly fighters the close rounds.

He went completely against his previous history.

Insiders say he got a retirement gift from the WBC officials
and the Philly/Puerto Rican connection.

The 71 year-old Lou Tress had been judging fights since 1935.

The guy never judged a boxing match again.

Senor Pepe' · 03-27-2012, 04:34 PM

Bing Bang,,,,,,,

Here's the scoring,

By the way it was announced in the Spectrum.

Mexican Referee; Ray Solis (148-146) = (4-2-9) Tyronne Everett
An amazing 9 rounds even.

Puerto Rican/American Judge; Ismael Fernandez (146-143) = (7-4-4) Alfredo Escalara

Philadelphia Judge; Lou Tress (145-143) = (7-5-3) Alfredo Escalara

It was kind of expected that the Puerto Rican Judge would score the fight
for Alfredo Escalara, and that Lou Tress would side with Tyronne Everett.

The Spectrum crowd was in total shock,,,,,,,,,

Lou Tress avoided any interviews regarding the fight. And he got a police escort
out of the arena.

Flea Man · 01-19-2013, 11:43 AM

S_S you seen this?

Danmann · 01-20-2013, 02:51 AM

He was getting incredible build up by boxing writers, but in one fight of his I saw (can't remember opponent) he was very good, but was not as great as they were making him out to be. He was still developing though, and would have been good contender at least, maybe title holder.

Flea Man · 01-20-2013, 06:43 AM

He essentially already was a title holder, beating Escalera with little hassle.

lora · 01-20-2013, 10:32 AM

Everett usually draws comparisons to fellow southpaw Camacho for style, but he's more methodical and technical than that.More like a speedier 130 Kalule.

natonic · 01-20-2013, 10:43 AM

I think there's a good possibillity Everett would have been great. I'd favor him over all the fighters on the list except maybe Arguello. Might eyes tell me he'd be a nightmare for Arguello. But Arguello would put in some work to the body and would have caught him at some point. Hard to say whether he could have gotten through the championship rounds. But regardless, Arguello still would have moved up to 135. I think he would have been a force until Camacho came on the scene. That would have been a very interesting fight.

06-10-2008, 09:29 AM	#1
sweet_scientist Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,300 vCash: 1000	Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? We'll never know for sure, obviously, but let's assume he fights the following: Samuel Serrano 1978 Alexis Arguello 1978 Bobby Chacon 1979 Ruben Castillo 1979 Rafael Limon 1980 Rolando Navarette 1980 Cornelius Boza Edwards 1981 Where does he stand say, by 1982? Would he be great if he took on all those fighters? Frankly, I favour him over all the fighters mentioned there, with the possible exception of Arguello. I'm not sure how good Everett's jaw was, but if he can take Arguello's punch he's 90% on the way to winning their fight because I struggle to see Arguello winning more rounds. Thoughts? Last edited by sweet_scientist; 06-10-2008 at 01:42 PM.
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06-10-2008, 09:48 AM	#2
Lobotomy Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 841 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? Well, he certainly toyed with Escalera. (Unfortuantely, the snake Alfredo wore around his neck was apparently one of the judges.) I remember Tyrone "Butterfly" Crawley citing Everett as his inspiration, declaring the belief that he was the best in the world P4P. But footage of him needs to be made readily available for modern boxing fans to have any opportunity to further evaluate him for themselves.
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ThinBlack Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,932 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? Possibly, he definitely had a shot, but most likely, would have to get out of Philly for title shots.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? Absolutely yes,,,,,,, A wonderful quick-fisted boxer who clearly was one of the top 130 lb. fighters in the world. Ring Magazine 1974 #3 1975 #1 1976 #2 1977 #1 (At the time of his death)
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,703 vCash: 330	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? He beat escalera quite clearly from what i've read. Although it's hard gaugeing his ability given his lack of big name opponents.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? The WBC Super Featherweight title fight against Alfredo Escalara wasn't even close. Every ringside observer had Tyronne Everett winning at least 10 rounds. Associated Press had it 146-139 (11-4-0) in rounds. United Press had it 146-141 (9-4-2) in rounds. Philadelphia Daily News had it 146-140 (10-4-1) in rounds. Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 03-27-2012 at 02:31 PM.
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salsanchezfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 6,888 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? I scored it 12-3 in favor of Everett. And the rounds weren't close either......it wasn't like you could make any serious case for Escalera. Easily the most disgraceful decision I've ever seen. The fix was in for sure. No one is THAT bad a judge.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? Bing Bang,,,,,,, Here's the scoring, By the way it was announced in the Spectrum. Mexican Referee; Ray Solis (148-146) = (4-2-9) Tyronne Everett An amazing 9 rounds even. Puerto Rican/American Judge; Ismael Fernandez (146-143) = (7-4-4) Alfredo Escalara Philadelphia Judge; Lou Tress (145-143) = (7-5-3) Alfredo Escalara It was kind of expected that the Puerto Rican Judge would score the fight for Alfredo Escalara, and that Lou Tress would side with Tyronne Everett. The Spectrum crowd was in total shock,,,,,,,,, Lou Tress avoided any interviews regarding the fight. And he got a police escort out of the arena. Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 03-27-2012 at 04:46 PM.
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Danmann Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,220 vCash: 500	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? He was getting incredible build up by boxing writers, but in one fight of his I saw (can't remember opponent) he was very good, but was not as great as they were making him out to be. He was still developing though, and would have been good contender at least, maybe title holder.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,045 vCash: 75	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? He essentially already was a title holder, beating Escalera with little hassle.
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lora Fighting Zapata East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,444 vCash: 500	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? Everett usually draws comparisons to fellow southpaw Camacho for style, but he's more methodical and technical than that.More like a speedier 130 Kalule.
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natonic Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,737 vCash: 1000	Re: Would Tyrone Everett have been great if he didn't die? I think there's a good possibillity Everett would have been great. I'd favor him over all the fighters on the list except maybe Arguello. Might eyes tell me he'd be a nightmare for Arguello. But Arguello would put in some work to the body and would have caught him at some point. Hard to say whether he could have gotten through the championship rounds. But regardless, Arguello still would have moved up to 135. I think he would have been a force until Camacho came on the scene. That would have been a very interesting fight.
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