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Old 05-24-2013, 06:20 AM   #1
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Was Naseem ever considered P4P no.1?
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:23 AM   #2
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not even close he only faced 1 known opponent in barrera and lost...badly
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No. Before the Barrera fight RING had him sitting at around 6 or 7.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:25 AM   #4
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Nope

At any one time Naz would have had more than a couple of the following ahead of him: Oscar, Roy Jones, Tito, Mosely, Sweet Pea, Zoo, B-Hop, Morales, Floyd and Corrales. I'm pretty sure ring had him top ten a few times but never seriously a #1 consideration.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:26 AM   #5
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BTW - I presume you only mean pre-Barrera, hence MAB not being on that list
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No but I'm sure he was top 10 for a few years

I think nazs legend is ageing well if people are asking this
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not even close he only faced 1 known opponent in barrera and lost...badly
1 known opponent? To a casual fan I take it?
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:36 AM   #8
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Absolutely. It's subjective and I 'considered' him to the best boxer in the world after the Steve Robinson performance, either him or Roy Jones.
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not even close he only faced 1 known opponent in barrera and lost...badly
1 known opponent equals Barrera,Vazquez,Sanchez,bungo,soto,kelley,McCullough and ingle I take it


Have I missed anyone
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Absolutely. It's subjective and I 'considered' him to the best boxer in the world after the Steve Robinson performance, either him or Roy Jones.
Considering him the best and being P4P #1 is entirely different though, no? There's an argument that someone like Adrien Broner is one of the best fighters in the world on ability. But we wont know if he actually is until he's fought people of note. Until then, there are a host of more worthy candidates above him.

Naz, at the time of the Robinson fight, hadnt fought anyone approaching world level. Some good victories following that fight would have put him in most people's P4P top ten but he would unlikely have ever been any higher than around #6 on most people's lists.

Not sure where he reached in Ring's rankings but I'd be surprised if he ever broke top 5.
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1 known opponent equals Barrera,Vazquez,Sanchez,bungo,soto,kelley,McCullough and ingle I take it


Have I missed anyone
Just looked up his record Tom Johnson,Robinson,badillo and many others earlier in his title run
He had a very good resume in that he fought capable fighters and was dominant and exciting.the problem was when he reached his expected peak he lost interest in improving and the discipline involved


What a shame could hameds name been alongside Barrera,Marquez,morales and pacquiao


He would of added a touch of show business to a quartet of outstanding fighters who were brilliant to watch
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:20 AM   #12
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I've never really understood the whole "Naz was well beaten by Barrera"

I've watched the fight many times and he certainly lost, but well beaten really??
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:24 AM   #14
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No but #1 P4P puncher
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Considering him the best and being P4P #1 is entirely different though, no? There's an argument that someone like Adrien Broner is one of the best fighters in the world on ability. But we wont know if he actually is until he's fought people of note. Until then, there are a host of more worthy candidates above him.

Naz, at the time of the Robinson fight, hadnt fought anyone approaching world level. Some good victories following that fight would have put him in most people's P4P top ten but he would unlikely have ever been any higher than around #6 on most people's lists.

Not sure where he reached in Ring's rankings but I'd be surprised if he ever broke top 5.
'P4P #1' is mythical nonsense.

Ring didn't have 'P4P' rankings back then.

However, KO Magazine had an end-of-year vote among Yank 'experts' and Naz was #10 in '95 (Nigel Benn was #11), not that that means anything.
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