Mares turns down $1M to face Donaire: Updated at end of thread - Page 2

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

Offer still hasnt made it there yet and this was said to be happening last night on Twitter

There is a subtle but real dig in the proposal. Mares gets to select his corner and be introduced second. In other words he is treated as the "champion" in this fight. For that much money you and I wouldn't quibble but things like this scuttle fights all the time.

purephase · 01-26-2013, 11:59 AM

I think the real problem here might not be nefarious motives on either side, but instead be old man Arum's confusion about technology. We already know from the most recent Pac-Floyd negotiations that he has trouble using the telephone and figuring which buttons to press to call Golden Boy and Haymon. I don't think it's much of a stretch at all to conclude he has similar issues when it comes to using more sophisticated media like e-mail and fax.

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bballchump11

my bad man. You were saying this whole time that GBP was the reason this fight wasn't being made. Now that you've been proven to be completely and obviously wrong, you're trying to still savage your rep.

I understand. I'll let you go oblivious

I guess you are talking to me? GBP turned down $1 mill by Schaefer's own admission. That is a very good purse offer for Mares. Tell me the terms of both deals and what Donaire walks away with under each. We simply don't know that yet. The revenues for this fight will come off of Donaire's name much more than Mares'.

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by purephase

I think the real problem here might not be nefarious motives on either side, but instead be old man Arum's confusion about technology. We already know from the most recent Pac-Floyd negotiations that he has trouble using the telephone and figuring which buttons to press to call Golden Boy and Haymon. I don't think it's much of a stretch at all to conclude he has similar issues when it comes to using more sophisticated media like e-mail and fax.

HBO confirmed the negotiations that 'never took place'. Try again. Remember Floyd calling Pac directly? So, yeah, it is a bit confusing on who to negotiate with. Would be promoter Curtis Jackson was in the picture then too.

Outboxer · 01-26-2013, 12:04 PM

I'm not even interested in seeing any Mares fights after what he did in the first Agbeko match.

purephase · 01-26-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermit

HBO confirmed the negotiations that 'never took place'. Try again.

I said most recent. You know, when Bob just couldn't figure out how to use the phone to get in touch with Floyd after a hard day helping build a stadium and tending to Manny's life-threatening cut.

I do wonder if one of the generous investors Arum was speaking with about making Floyd-Manny was from Nigeria. Old people are the most likely to be victimized by e-mail scams.

BigBone · 01-26-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

Donaire shouldn't get criticism for it though.

Yes he should. If Donaire sees the offer and doesn't run knocking on Bob Arum's door like a madman, that counts as a duck. He's being offered his career payday.

Bazooka · 01-26-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Outboxer

I'm not even interested in seeing any Mares fights after what he did in the first Agbeko match.

not only that but in his last fight too, and against Vic fucking kid fouls the fuck out of you

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Outboxer

I'm not even interested in seeing any Mares fights after what he did in the first Agbeko match.

Good point. I did mention officials in a previous post. A solid ref will be needed to keep Mares from winning by foul. KO by low blow that isn't called?

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBone

Yes he should. If Donaire sees the offer and doesn't run knocking on Bob Arum's door like a madman, that counts as a duck. He's being offered his career payday.

$1 mill for Mares? How do you duck it? Oh, make a counter offer for a month that the opponent said he is taking off. Buy a clue.

Bazooka · 01-26-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermit

Good point. I did mention officials in a previous post. A solid ref will be needed to keep Mares from winning by foul. KO by low blow that isn't called?

Exactly why we would want this fight to take place in Vegas not in Los Angeles or California for that matter. Mares gets allot of favoritism here in Ca

What gets me though is why so many Mexican fight fans support him the way they do, we have a better fighter in that division, Leo Santa Cruz which I think makes for a much better fight with Nonito

natep · 01-26-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

Yeah, that's right. $1m is way, way too low for such a big fight.

Both fighters aren't worth the 1 million, let alone the 3 million. Neither fighter is a household name, Donaire has had several showings on the championship network, albeit they were mediocre crowd sellers (sans Alvarado Rios). Mares and Golden Boy seem content with selling even less tickets while they run away with huge paychecks via license fee from Stephen Espinoza of Showtime.

Hermit · 01-26-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by natep

Mares and Golden Boy seem content with selling even less tickets while they run away with huge paychecks via license fee from Stephen Espinoza of Showtime.

This part could get interesting actually. You know Arum shopped this matchup when he made Mares the $1 Mill offer and will have quotes. For Schaefer to say no network has been picked is beyond ludicrous. If Espinoza turns around and offers GBP more than TR it opens him up to scrutiny in the company and even possibly legal action for restraint of trade and price fixing.

natep · 01-26-2013, 12:31 PM

It's well known that Espinoza has banned Top Rank from Showtime. If you look at Showtime and all of their fights they've all virtually been Golden Boy fights. I find it funny that a lot of posters here have this loving relationship with Golden Boy, yet Golden Boy has almost a strangle hold on the industry. Where is the collaboration?

Stevenson#1 · 01-26-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Richel Hersisia

BS... Donaire should all the criticism.. He's the one signing with Arum as his promoter.. And if he forces his promoter to make the fight.. he has to make the fight...

It's just Top Rank tactics this... The fighters tells how he wants to fight everybody and then Arums says no. It's a trick to let Arum take all the blame and let the fighters seem like fearless warriors.. Pac played the same game with Arum and now Donaire.. It's disgusting how many boxing fans are buying this crap

01-26-2013, 11:59 AM	#17
purephase Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,457 vCash: 500	Re: Mares turns down $1Mill "low-ball offer" to face Donaire I think the real problem here might not be nefarious motives on either side, but instead be old man Arum's confusion about technology. We already know from the most recent Pac-Floyd negotiations that he has trouble using the telephone and figuring which buttons to press to call Golden Boy and Haymon. I don't think it's much of a stretch at all to conclude he has similar issues when it comes to using more sophisticated media like e-mail and fax.
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01-26-2013, 12:04 PM	#20
Outboxer Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,987 vCash: 1000	Re: Mares turns down $1Mill "low-ball offer" to face Donaire I'm not even interested in seeing any Mares fights after what he did in the first Agbeko match.
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01-26-2013, 12:31 PM	#29
natep Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: lucifers sanctuary, no one will come for me. Posts: 2,324 vCash: 362	Re: Mares turns down $1Mill "low-ball offer" to face Donaire It's well known that Espinoza has banned Top Rank from Showtime. If you look at Showtime and all of their fights they've all virtually been Golden Boy fights. I find it funny that a lot of posters here have this loving relationship with Golden Boy, yet Golden Boy has almost a strangle hold on the industry. Where is the collaboration?
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