Who won? Leonard or Hagler?

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by ELECTRIC GURU

Who do people think won the 9th and 12th?

I had Hagler winning round 9, Leonard winning round 12 - what did you think mate? I've seen it twice, scored it a draw and scored it 115-113 to Hagler, but I can see how people would give it 115-113 to Leonard, depending on how you saw rounds 6, 11 and 12, overall I've got no problem with the decision, to this day it's the greatest comeback in the history of the sport

[dodong]

Originally Posted by Rex Tickard

Leonard won rounds 1-4, 6, and 11 fairly clearly IMO. Hagler possibly edged most, if not all of the remaining rounds, but not all of his rounds were as clear cut as the ones I gave to Leonard IMO. Very close fight, but I've always felt that Leonard deserved at least a draw, if not a close win.

there is no way leonard takes round 1, he was running like he stole something, throwing an occasional pebble to try and slow down hagler.

round 6 was close but hagler was throwing the heavier blows so i gave him the round.

[Hoshi]

Hagler 115-113 Leonard

Leonard was holding and hitting all fight and his flurries were the very definition of shoe shining.

That said both were clearly past their best, tired and inaccurate with shots.

[ELECTRIC GURU]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

I had Hagler winning round 9, Leonard winning round 12 - what did you think mate? I've seen it twice, scored it a draw and scored it 115-113 to Hagler, but I can see how people would give it 115-113 to Leonard, depending on how you saw rounds 6, 11 and 12, overall I've got no problem with the decision, to this day it's the greatest comeback in the history of the sport

I thought Leonard won 1,2,3,4,11,12
Hagler 5,7,8

with 6,9,10 tough to score.

Haglers work was sluggish imo, Leonards punches were so much sharper. Many of the rounds in the fight were hard to score on whether you prefered Haglers steady grind or Leonards flashy bursts. I prefered Leonards work.

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by ELECTRIC GURU

I thought Leonard won 1,2,3,4,11,12
Hagler 5,7,8

with 6,9,10 tough to score.

Haglers work was sluggish imo, Leonards punches were so much sharper. Many of the rounds in the fight were hard to score on whether you prefered Haglers steady grind or Leonards flashy bursts. I prefered Leonards work.

True, as well as Leonard's flashy bursts, his footwork was absolutely top notch, in the opening rounds before he tired, Marvin just catch up with him, or corner him. It was only after round 5 that Hagler got going, before then he was getting shut out.

On my last viewing I had it a draw, with Leonard winning rounds 1,2,3,4,6,12 with Marvin winning the rest. Many had Ray winning round 7, but I disagree. Great fight though, my favourite moment is round 12 when Ray was backed into the ropes, looks like Marvin's got him, then Ray comes back with a 10 punch combination and backs him up.

[ELECTRIC GURU]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

True, as well as Leonard's flashy bursts, his footwork was absolutely top notch, in the opening rounds before he tired, Marvin just catch up with him, or corner him. It was only after round 5 that Hagler got going, before then he was getting shut out.

On my last viewing I had it a draw, with Leonard winning rounds 1,2,3,4,6,12 with Marvin winning the rest. Many had Ray winning round 7, but I disagree. Great fight though, my favourite moment is round 12 when Ray was backed into the ropes, looks like Marvin's got him, then Ray comes back with a 10 punch combination and backs him up.

yeah mate, was more like 20 punches, love that 12th round with the showboating and the 9th when Leonard is pinned in the corner and fights his way outta there with a series of flurry's, was a great round.

[benebox]

115-113 Hagler.

[Bill Butcher]

Leonard won a close fight... due mainly to the fact he took 5 of the first 6 rounds (I gave Hagler round 5) & dug out 2 from the last 6 rounds when Hagler came on strong. I though Leonard won more clear rounds than Hagler also. Calling this a robbery automatically means you should not be taken seriously on anything boxing related IMO... close fights are not robberies.

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by dodong

no...he was the favorite and he expected to have done better.

hagler did enough and had it 7-5.

From a guy that gave the first 2 rounds to Hagler

Leonard clearly won those rounds, you`d have to be extremely biased with a hell of an agenda so see things otherwise, that = a Leonard win on your card once you correct that shit.

[Boxalot]

Seen the fight more times than i can remember, and have never had Hagler winning. Leonard won the fight fairly imo, normally have it 7-5.

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by dodong

no...hagler got 1st and 2nd round.

Wow... just wow

Hagler did nothing in round 1, Leonard didn`t do much more but it was clear as day he landed more than Hagler.

Round 2 was one of the clearest rounds of the fight to score & it was easily a Leonard round. I have no idea what you were doing when those rounds were being shown.

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by Rex Tickard

Leonard won rounds 1-4, 6, and 11 fairly clearly IMO. Hagler possibly edged most, if not all of the remaining rounds, but not all of his rounds were as clear cut as the ones I gave to Leonard IMO. Very close fight, but I've always felt that Leonard deserved at least a draw, if not a close win.

This is exactly the way I see it

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by ELECTRIC GURU

Who do people think won the 9th and 12th?

Both rounds could have been scored even to be honest but I always lean this way.......

1. SRL
2. SRL
3. SRL
4. SRL
5. MMH
6. SRL
7. MMH
8. MMH
9. MMH
10. MMH
11. SRL
12. SRL

115-113 Leonard

[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by Bill Butcher

Wow... just wow

Hagler did nothing in round 1, Leonard didn`t do much more but it was clear as day he landed more than Hagler.

Round 2 was one of the clearest rounds of the fight to score & it was easily a Leonard round. I have no idea what you were doing when those rounds were being shown.

but Hagler was the aggressor

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

True, as well as Leonard's flashy bursts, his footwork was absolutely top notch, in the opening rounds before he tired, Marvin just catch up with him, or corner him. It was only after round 5 that Hagler got going, before then he was getting shut out.

On my last viewing I had it a draw, with Leonard winning rounds 1,2,3,4,6,12 with Marvin winning the rest. Many had Ray winning round 7, but I disagree. Great fight though, my favourite moment is round 12 when Ray was backed into the ropes, looks like Marvin's got him, then Ray comes back with a 10 punch combination and backs him up.

2 things.... not many people I`ve heard gave Leonard round 7, rounds 7 & 8 were Hagler`s 2 best rounds.... and Ray definitely won round 11 so add that to 1,2,3,4,6 & 12 and you have the same score as me which = a SRL win.