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Old 01-28-2013, 01:35 PM   #166
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Lucas can't be compared to Chavez Jr. Because he has not been caught using diuretics. I have criticized Chavez Jr. As being unprofessional, but it wasn't for the insane amount of pounds he has put on after the weigh-in, but because of his camps use of diuretics and shady anti-doping testing. Not to mention other antics.

There has also been comparisons to the Gatti vs Gamache fight where Arturo Gatti put on some 20 lbs or more and brutalized Gamache, sending him into retirement. But we have to note that Gatti didn't make the contract weight. Lucas did make weight. I think Gatti was only 1 lb. over but still, you have to note that he didn't make weight.

Once I see proof that Lucas Mattysse used Diuretics or some other banned substance to cheat the scales or is not not making the contract weight during the official weight in. I will not be referring to as a disgrace or a cheat. Till then Deal with it!
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:52 PM   #167
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When you make a thread and 99 percent of people disagree with you what does that say hmmmm
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:55 PM   #168
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:20 PM   #169
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He played by the same rules Dallas Jr. played by. Quit crying so much. Until boxing changes to same day weigh-ins, fighters will continually make weight when they need to and then rehydrate. Floyd does it too, he just doesn't let HBO weigh him on fight night. Chavez Jr. is one of the worst offenders, coming in well over 180 in his middleweight fights. Get over it or petition the powers that be.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:23 PM   #170
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He played by the same rules Dallas Jr. played by. Quit crying so much. Until boxing changes to same day weigh-ins, fighters will continually make weight when they need to and then rehydrate. Floyd does it too, he just doesn't let HBO weigh him on fight night. Chavez Jr. is one of the worst offenders, coming in well over 180 in his middleweight fights. Get over it or petition the powers that be.
Floyd was weighed vs Ortiz on fight night.

Weighed 150.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:24 PM   #171
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Floyd was weighed vs Ortiz on fight night.

Weighed 150.
How much vs Marquez I heard 160
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:27 PM   #172
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How much vs Marquez I heard 160
He wasn't weighed, but he I read an article stating he was 150 or 151.


Floyd to me personally hasn't looked any different in size in his 4 last fights.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:32 PM   #173
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How much vs Marquez I heard 160

you made that **** up, he didnt go on the scales.

the weight didnt matter in that fight anyway

its was the skills pay the bills fight.

better skills wins. 2 pounds here or there aint going to do ****.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:33 PM   #174
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He wasn't weighed, but he I read an article stating he was 150 or 151.


Floyd to me personally hasn't looked any different in size in his 4 last fights.
I think 90 percent of the time he does come in like you said 150-151 lbs but i do know he doesn't let anyone weigh him the day of the fight so who knows really
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:37 PM   #175
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you made that **** up, he didnt go on the scales.

the weight didnt matter in that fight anyway

its was the skills pay the bills fight.

better skills wins. 2 pounds here or there aint going to do ****.
Didn't make nothing up i remember Nacho said it but unless nacho has a private scale that weighed him I guess it's just bs anyway
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I think 90 percent of the time he does come in like you said 150-151 lbs but he doesn't let anyone weigh him the day of the fight so who knows really
Well you can just look at him. He doesn't look any different from his last 4 fights.

I think since Marquez. He's been 150/151 in all of his fights. If not less.



Isn't he unofficially lighter than Pac now?
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:41 PM   #177
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Well you can just look at him. He doesn't look any different from his last 4 fights.

I think since Marquez. He's been 150/151 in all of his fights. If not less.



Isn't he unofficially lighter than Pac now?
I agree
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Matthysse was 153 in the ring against Devon and he sure as hell didn't look 11 lbs bigger i don't give a **** what anyone says.

Golovkin weighs around 164 in the ring ffs, Lucas who is 4-5 inches shorter does not weigh as much as Golovkin.
ggg is 5'10" and matthysse is 5'7".

but i agree.

that was not a 163 pound man in the ring saturday night.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:43 PM   #179
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ggg is 5'10" and matthysse is 5'7".

but i agree.

that was not a 163 pound man in the ring saturday night.
Being 163 would do more harm then good so I don't see the point really
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:55 PM   #180
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How isn't it disgraceful? Although it is legal, you're basically coming in a MIDDLEWEIGHT fighting a JR welterweight fight.....

The punches you take aren't going to be the same. You have a clear advantage.

It's just frowned upon. And I wouldn't support a fighter who repeatedly practices this kind of thing.
I have to agree with you. it may be legal, but it's still a cowardish move in my opinion. especially at such a low weight class. It's also a disservice to mattysee, who i think is a great fighter. but if he start pulling that regularly, i will also lose respect for him.
that said, he didn't seem to be much bigger than his opponent who came in at 153 so it is interesting.
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